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peterd79

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The PV XXX amp was somewhat distasteful for me w/it's mudflap girl and XXX theme.

I can't say that I was offended very much. But that packaging would limit some of the places I would feel comfortable playing it. It was also not the example I wanted to set for my daughter.

That is specifically a case where packaging pushed me away from an otherwise great amp.

Totally forgot about this one... that was a great amp but because of the XXX theme i had to walk away because of where i play- otherwise it was a great amp
 

Spudmurphy

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Q - How important is the name (not brand) of the gear you use?

A - I guess that I have to hold my hand up on this.

I bought a polarising filter for my Digi SLR - primarily as a means to protect the expensive lens.
I bought it from an on line shop and their name was emblazoned on the ring of the filter.
I got out a black sharpie and obliterated the name.

Did it stop me buying it? - no.
But I felt that I didn't want the name showing to all and sundry.:eek:
 

Jimmyb

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Q - How important is the name (not brand) of the gear you use?

A - I guess that I have to hold my hand up on this.

I bought a polarising filter for my Digi SLR - primarily as a means to protect the expensive lens.
I bought it from an on line shop and their name was emblazoned on the ring of the filter.
I got out a black sharpie and obliterated the name.

Did it stop me buying it? - no.
But I felt that I didn't want the name showing to all and sundry.:eek:

That's reverse snobbery that is!

The name of a product doesn't really bother me, I'm a gear snob at times, but actual names don't really worry me. I think I'm used to buying things with model numbers as opposed to names, which is why it isn't that big a deal to me.
 

paranoid70

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I think a stupid name might turn me off from trying something in the first place. But, if I like the way it works, a stupid name won't keep me from buying it and using it. Does that make any sense?
 

ZeRaskolnikoff

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it does matter to me... it's just a psychological thing i guess, but it does matter... for example, I don't like using any gear with female names on it... :))) I also don't like any "signature model" gear no matter how good it is...
 

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I feel like I’m back in college in a marketing 101 class.

A product name, appearance, colours & packaging all come in to play regardless of whats being sold.
I was taught the “KISS” format. Keep It Simple Stupid.

I believe in brand loyalty and a weird name would not keep me from buying it.
 

Jason2112

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Thanks for the replies so far, some really good dialogue. For me personally, I'm not really put off by a product's name if the sound and features were spot on. My issue is that if I'm presented with 3 items, let's say 3 distortion pedals, and I don't have an opportunity to try them out, which one would I be most likely to buy? A "Box of Rock" gives me a pretty good idea that it's a rock-based overdrive/distortion based on the name. "Timmy" tells me nothing about what to expect. "Disembowler" tells me it's most likely extreme metal.

So that's the reason for my question. Would you be turned off from buying a Timmy simply because it doesn't really help you identify what it does?
 

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There is a successful line of pedals out there that are all named after sandwiches, which gives you absolutely no clue as to what the effect is that they generate. Pastrami (overdrive), PB & J (delay), Chicken Salad (vibrato), etc...

--Pete
 

mbgreene

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I've actually done just the opposite. I bought a small company's overdrive pedal simply because its was named "The Green Machine" which was my nickname in elementary school. (It's based on the original green ibby OD) I really didn't care if it was the best sounding OD pedal ever, I just bought it because I had to.
 

Norrin Radd

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Thanks for the replies so far, some really good dialogue. For me personally, I'm not really put off by a product's name if the sound and features were spot on. My issue is that if I'm presented with 3 items, let's say 3 distortion pedals, and I don't have an opportunity to try them out, which one would I be most likely to buy? A "Box of Rock" gives me a pretty good idea that it's a rock-based overdrive/distortion based on the name. "Timmy" tells me nothing about what to expect. "Disembowler" tells me it's most likely extreme metal.

So that's the reason for my question. Would you be turned off from buying a Timmy simply because it doesn't really help you identify what it does?

I think with all the information available at our fingertips these days (internet), making any gear related buying decision without doing 1o minutes of research is silly. You want to know what the Timmy sounds like or does? Go to Youtube and spend 7 seconds typing "Timmy pedal" in the search field. Gear names are irrelevant today for anyone with a few molecules of grey matter to work with. Information is available and waiting for you to use it. Why wouldn't someone do that?

Now, the actual name being off putting is a different matter altogether. Personally, i haven't been turned away by a name yet. Who cares? Its just a name, and unless you have to advertise a product due to contract agreement, you can always change or cover up a name on a piece of gear if you need to. How does it work for you? That's what's important.
 

noise5150

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I think gear names are relevant to a certain extent but for example, if Marshall came out with a new amp called the "magic taco" and the reviews were raving about it and it sounded like a JCM800 for $300 I'd probably buy it.
 

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I think a lot depends on your buying habits.

If you're the type that buys on hype and are an early adopter, it may be more of an issue for you. Cool names definitely help the hype factor.

If you're the type that sits back and waits for player reviews from trusted names, etc. then it's less of an issue.

I find myself in both camps from time to time. In camp #2, I waited a long time before buying a "Timmy". But it's great, just like several guys I trust seem to think. And, of course, in camp #1 I've bought lots of stuff just because.

That said ... in general I think regardless of what we admit, most of us are more motivated by cool names and product endorsements than we want to believe.
 

jbyrd

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As others have said, I wouldn't buy something with embarrassing and/or offensive words or images. As far as the Timmy pedal, if I went to the store to buy a distortion pedal it would probably not be the first one I tried. I think I'd be more likely to try something with a name that I immediately identified as a distortion pedal. If I really liked one of the other pedals, poor Timmy may not get a shot. If I was internet shopping, I'd be reading a bunch of reviews and listening to a bunch of sound clips. Hard to be sure but I think the name may have less influence on me when internet shopping. I don't think it really influences me a whole bunch in any case.

Also, I always thought Bongo was a great bass name.
 

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Would you feel silly using a reverb pedal called "Summer Rain Reverb"?

I've tried that pedal and it sucks. Don't get it.

The name doesn't matter too much to me. I have a Kerry King Q-zone pedal and don't particular care for his music. He's talented, but it's not my thing. The pedal is great though.
 

Wolf 6

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Please tell there isn't a OD/Dirt pedal named "Timmy"? OT: I've got a Flanger called a Danelectro Hashbrowns flanger.... but I upgraded and got a Arion SFL-1 Stereo Flanger. P.S.-Don't get the Dano pedal.
 

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A while back I was going to purchase a Washburn flying V signature model w/ a very neat looking bat design on it. It was inexpensive and had a composite graphite neck. I believe it was a Jame Malone signature model. I did some research and found that James (while he may be a great guitarist) was playing Death Metal. Not my favorite kind of music to be honest. I passed on the the deal.

I'm quite glad I did, because I am now the proud owner of a lovely trans red AL SSS.

Cheers!

:)
 

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No it does not. It's to each his own. For me personally instruments are about tonal integrity and quality construction. Aesthetics is THE least important quality to me. The instrument must sound good and it must last. I wouldn't think twice about sanding a headstock or logo because I find the name abrasive or juvenile.

Fortunately quality companies never have a problem with this. I would love my 25th even if BP named it "Axi's Big Bro with Holes"

My .02

Lol that's true
 

fbecir

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I would never contemplate using an amp I saw called a "MoFo" no matter how good it sounded.

One of the advantages of being French is that it took me 6 months to understand the not-so-secret meaning of MoFo :rolleyes:
Well a name is just a name and if the sound is good I will buy it if I need it. But of course if the name is too much ridiculous, in the music shop I will never dare to ask to try it ;)
 

walleye

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But of course if the name is too much ridiculous, in the music shop I will never dare to ask to try it ;)

i think thats a more important aspect of this whole marketing game. the name and aesthetics attracts exposure. If musicman made a hello kitty reflex, people would laugh and walk righy by it, and they walk by not knowing that its actually an amazing guitar .. to the ear. naming products well will encourage people to explore your products.
 
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