How much does an F-1 retail for?

[John C]

Ali

Anderson is out of the game. He gave up.

BP, I don't have a dog in this fight as I'm here in the USA so I'm not going to comment on the pricing.

I did want to give an update that Anderson has decided to stay in business. They are filling their current orders and doing some reorganizing but according to his website they plan to be back talking orders as soon as possible.

 

[Big Poppa]

ANderson is going to be a one man show. THis was always the plan. I think the world of Tom Anderson an the knowledge he has shared and the fine guitars his team has made.

I think that the fans and customers out there dont know how hard it is to make a small profit and make guitars in America. THere have been several threads obut too high of prices and questioning our techniques but if you asked Anderson or our competition they would probably tip thier hat to us.

 

[Oldtoe]

You could always move your plant to Texas, BP. We don't have an ocean, but we do have a lot of cows and mosquitoes. You know, and cheap land.

Heh.

 

[John C]

ANderson is going to be a one man show. THis was always the plan. I think the world of Tom Anderson an the knowledge he has shared and the fine guitars his team has made.

I think that the fans and customers out there dont know how hard it is to make a small profit and make guitars in America. THere have been several threads obut too high of prices and questioning our techniques but if you asked Anderson or our competition they would probably tip thier hat to us.

Agreed - I don't know how you guys do what you do at your price point - I've never had an Anderson but I do like my EBMMs more than some other "boutique" guitars out there that I've owned in the past - you just hit the best neck shapes for me on the Silo Special, Axis and AL models.

Tom Anderson was going down to a one-man shop, which he announced back in November/December. He evidently had a change of heart over the holidays and posted this announcement in early January prior to the NAMM show (from Anderson's home page):

An update from the horse’s mouth (Tom of course).
Your response to my plan to phase out our current operation and become a one man shop has been overwhelming!

Thank you so very, very much for your outpouring of support for our guitars and the company as a whole. You have led me to reconsider what makes the most sense for Tom Anderson Guitarworks and for me personally in the future.

I won't be going solo at the end of March, and the company and I will continue making the very same guitars Roy calls “the best guitars on the planet.” We will be changing how we are structured, but your experience should stay the same. Starting in April we will build and ship a more limited number of guitars for a while as we reorganize. As we progress we will keep you informed.

Thank you again so much for all your kind words, your patience and your best wishes. I look forward to our future together!

Sorry to spend your bandwidth on this; just wanted to pass the info along.

 

[jeffrey]

Wow that's great news! I've always wanted an Anderson 7 string kinda.

Wonder if he'll still be making those.

 

[Devnor]

I've been hammering on Tom to build me a 7 stringer and it's just not going to happen...even if we got a 20pc order together.

 

[Pablo]

Ali, your suggestion of circumventing the distribution would not be fair to the distributors.
Keep in mind that our distributor in England was there plugging away when NOBODY cared about Music Man.
Its is simple I make a profit, the distributor has to make a profit and so does your domestic dealer and finally your government needs to make a lot of profit. Hypothetically if we bypassed the distributor we would have to provide all of the services of distributor and would have to make sure that we covered the additional overhead. Go crazy and you may save 50%.
Its tough to carry inventory, deal with fluctuating exchange rates, assume credit risk for dealers, develop and service artist relations, pay for and coordinate advertising and marketing, handle warranty repairs....all of these jobs need to happen.

The English MusicMan distributor may have worked his rear end off for the company and thus might deserve to be paid... But where I live (in Denmark's second largest city), I haven't seen a new MusicMan guitar in 5 years - and I go to the shops all the time! There is simply no advertising or marketing here and if there ever was an inventory anywhere around these parts, it is a terribly well kept secret!

Here in Denmark a standard MusicMan JP7 has an actual sales price which is 90% over what I have been quoted in the States. When the JP first came out, I paid around 120% more than what the various US guitar supermarkets sold them for because I didn't want it in black and wanted a matching headstock (sadly, I was too dumb not to get a paid vacation and a guitar for the price of a guitar...).

I am by no means stupid or naive but a Silhouette Special is 50% more than an American Strat DeLuxe over here - for some strange reason that percentage is much lower in the States...

I travel a lot and do pick up guitars when I travel... However, I also buy guitars here in Denmark when the prices are fair, but sadly this simply isn't the case for MusicMan guitars and when I pick up my next one it most certainly will be imported by yours truly.

Cheers

Eske

P.s.: Great new about Anderson giving it another go - IMHO it would have been a great loss to the guitar community, had he truly decided to call it quits.

P.p.s.: I honestly think the BFRs (in the States) are priced very fairly concidering what you are getting: it is the best of the best from MusicMan... Try asking Gibson or PRS what they'd charge for something like that.

 

[kevin]

Have you tried contacting our distributor for Denmark, Englund Musik? They will most certainly be able to point you in the right direction and assist you in tracking down what your looking for. Keep in mind when you compare Music Man to Fender, production wise, your talking about apples vs. oranges. The difference in street price(Silh. vs Strat) here in the US is actually right about 40%, so Internationally it seems to be right in line. Generally speaking in can be very tough to track down an instrument that is produced on a "made to order" basis in smaller countries. Most of the time once a dealer receives stock on a Music Man piece it is sold within a week or two.......or on many occasions before it even arrives. I'd be more than happy to personally put you in touch with Englund Musik the next time your in the market for a Music Man, just shoot me an e-mail. Also please feel free to e-mail or PM me if you have any International pricing questions or concerns. Lets try and keep the pricing wars off of the forum.

Thanks,

Kevin
International Customer Service
[email protected]

 

[Pablo]

Have you tried contacting our distributor for Denmark, Englund Musik? They will most certainly be able to point you in the right direction and assist you in tracking down what your looking for. Keep in mind when you compare Music Man to Fender, production wise, your talking about apples vs. oranges. The difference in street price(Silh. vs Strat) here in the US is actually right about 40%, so Internationally it seems to be right in line. Generally speaking in can be very tough to track down an instrument that is produced on a "made to order" basis in smaller countries. Most of the time once a dealer receives stock on a Music Man piece it is sold within a week or two.......or on many occasions before it even arrives. I'd be more than happy to personally put you in touch with Englund Musik the next time your in the market for a Music Man, just shoot me an e-mail. Also please feel free to e-mail or PM me if you have any International pricing questions or concerns. Lets try and keep the pricing wars off of the forum.

Thanks,

Kevin
International Customer Service
[email protected]

Sorry, will do - and thanks for your help!

Cheers

Eske

 

[kevin]

Sounds good Eske....Feel free to e-mail me anytime my friend!!

Cheers!!

 

[PBGas]

As a price comparison for what you get, I think everyone knows no one really comes close to EBMM. I mean, take a look at a well known overseas guitar maker who will put out an instrument in the same price range as my JP6 or 7. The guitar is NO WHERE near the quality of both of my instruments. The bridges are made of dye cast metal and the hardware has cheaper finishes. The fretwork is also filled in on the edges with wood filler. The pickups are copies and not even originals of a popular maker.

I am so thankful each day that I was able to get a couple of great guitars. Whatever they are charging for the BFRs and the F-1 models, it will be totally worth it.

 

[beej]

I am so thankful each day that I was able to get a couple of great guitars. Whatever they are charging for the BFRs and the F-1 models, it will be totally worth it.

I couldn't agree more! We tend to forget how expensive it is to deliver a first class product. When you compare instruments of the same calibre, they are almost always more expensive than MMs. I think we have it pretty good here