Help! How to set up my JP11

[Alberto]

Hello,

I need your help to undestand how to set up my JP11
I'm quite desperate as I can't adjust the lower string that continue to touch the neck
I have already released completly the truss rod, but the distance of the string from the neck
doesn't change
Take in account that the guitar is new and I have changed the original strings 010 with new ones
008. Do you think that this change could have caused this unpleasent condition?
I need your experience and knowledge about this guitar
Hopefully that you are able to advice me
I'm looking forward to receiving your suggestions

Thanks in advance for your attention

Alberto

 

[t_rod]

Have you leveled the bridge after changing strings?

 

[Alberto]

Yes of course
I leveled the bridge keeping it more or less at the same level of the body

 

[Alberto]

The worse condition appears when I push on the first fret
The other strange thing is that in soite of. I have completly released the truss rod I can't obtain the right distance of the strings in respect with the neck
Anyway as I told you I don't have any experience with this guitar or with set up in general

 

[Etudica]

If you've backed out the trem claw screws so that the bridge is in fact level with the body, can you tell us if it is recessed significatly into the body? If not, and the bridge is set correctly, take a look at the saddles. If it is a brand new guitar, I'm sure the saddles are fine. I'm also assuming all is good with the neck. Can you post a pic of your bridge?

Edit: Also, have you done the neck relief test as described in the 2nd paragraph HERE? Let us know what your neck relief is like.

 

[Eric O'Reilly]

10s to 08s is a pretty decent jump, you need a full set up done by a pro , if your not comfortable doing it yourself.

 

[Lou]

Your best course of action is to find someone locally who can help you.

 

[Alberto]

 

[Alberto]

Here above a couple of pictures related to the state of the bridge
Neck relief is not good
My impression is that in spite of I have released completly the truss rod, then it continue to be to much straight and the lower string touch the neck
But as I told you this is only my impression may be that something is escaping to me

 

[Etudica]

Pic of the bridge from the side? (From low E side) by "relief not good" do you mean there still isn't enough relief? I'm assuming you turned the truss rod counter clockwise (when looking down the neck from the body).

I never go more than 1/4-1/2 turn per day. When changing string gauges it sometimes takes a couple days of small adjustments. Slow and steady.

If you relieved tension correctly on the neck and not seeing any change at all, then it probably is best to have it looked over by a pro.

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[Lou]

Pics aren't helping. 008s have less tension so your neck will be backbowed compared to heavier strings. Bridge needs to be level because that will also effect your action. If you have loosened the rod as much as you can you can try pushing down on the center of the neck to help move it. You can also raise action to try and help. Again best bet is to get set up by a professional or get assistance from one of your peers in your area.

 

[Alberto]

I meam the first string (E 008) when you oush it at the first fret
Yes it seems not relief enough
Truss rod counter clock wise . Now you can move the roller even by your fingers
Another strange thing is that if you move manually the neck simulating the improvment of the back bowed then the string, just for a while, seems to play correctly

 

[Alberto]

Sorry Lou
but what you mean when you say to push the centre of the neck?
In which way?

 

[Rachmaninoff]

The previous owner of my JP had 010 for years, then all of a sudden I swapped it to 008. I think this is the worst case. I had to adjust everything: truss rod, springs arrangement & tension, bridge height, saddles height, intonation. My guitar today is so well set and comfortable that I almost have sexual pleasure when playing it LOL

I am used to setup complicated stuff like Floyd Rose bridges for about 20 years (I always set my guitars), so I know exactly what I'm doing. In your case, if you couldn't solve the problem, I'm with the guys suggesting you to bring your guitar to a professional. The changing from 010 to 008 is pretty harsh to the instrument, and you can harm it.

 

[DrKev]

In your case, if you couldn't solve the problem, I'm with the guys suggesting you to bring your guitar to a professional. The changing from 010 to 008 is pretty harsh to the instrument, and you can harm it.

No, it won't damage anything (though not knowing what we are doing might) but yes, bring it to a professional.

We cannot diagnose issues over the internet. Setting up guitars is not rocket science but it does require some learning and experience. This might be a easy setup job or there may be something else that we don't know about that needs fixing. A professional will be able to sort this out very quickly.

 

[temmull]

I took my axis to a luthier in notts he hadnt a clue he thought a refret was the answer i said hold that thought i was there within the hour paid for the uneeded strings got it home took it to bits and reasembled it from scratch i was nervouse at first and then realised.what a logical beautifull instrument it is i love it a fret level nut ajust truss rod adjustment all done remember folks let the neck settle with each turn if you need the whole play of the truss it aint the prob its the nut or the floyd .i took the floyd apart i hate it but had to put it back i frefere the ibanez trem for sure with a little invention of my own to keep in tune .so what can i add more happy ebmm guitaring doodes

 

[temmull]

Another prob is some folk think the evh guitar ranges are self playing super shred setup?there not its a blues play at it set up .i personaly like the playabikity of a bit of action .so it can depend on your expectations of a set up also .high end jacksons ect .not evh .again my opinion

 

[temmull]

That description sounds strange bending neck by hand and finger trus movements .theres something not right there .really strange hhh

 

[Alberto]

Helllo
Thanks a lot to all for your precious advices but I'm really worried
This evening I tried to adjust my guitar again with new strings 009 but the only way to avoid the annoying sound from the E thin string to the first fret, is to mantain an high action
I hate the high action!!!!
Truss rod is completly released and this is abnormal as well
I have got this guitar from last February and I'm seriously thinking to ask to provide the necessary adjustment directly to the seller in warranty

 

[beej]

The best advice here is to take it to someone that can actually see your guitar. If you bought it new, take it to the store. Or, find an EBMM dealer and let them have a look. You can also call the MM customer service folks next week and they can help you.

Beyond that, there's not much we can do here, since none of us can actually see the guitar.