Raz
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So last night I went to play, and as I approached my guitar stand. I noticed (yes I noticed) that most of my guitars all had excess relief...aye ya ya! Poor babies, humidity wreaks havoc...first the dry winters now this...
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Raz
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GWDavis28 said:
Are you serious so in these humid times, a case will do the trick? Hmmm ithought is might make it worse...you know like being locked in a dark room or something...thanks bro!
AxSport4me
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The case is definitely the way to go!!!!! This way the air can`t get to it as easily!
Raz
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I'm on it, tonight I'm gonna set up all of my babies and put them in their little houses...sniff...I'll miss them!
Raz, my barber has a F*nder that he got new and he likes (Why I don't know), so he says to me man I can't keep the damn thing in tune. I say well what do you want for a F*nder, LOL and I said well where do you keep it. He says on the stand. I say naw, they give you a hardshell case for a reason, put it in there. So, I go back to see him the next time and he's like Glenn man, thanx for the tip on the case man it's like always in tune.
Raz, i live in Massachusetts, this is like one of the worst locations for tempature changes. Mine are always in the cases when I'm not playing them. It's a pain in the butt, however I know that they are protected from the elements and from little dogs, sorry Koogie.
Later, Glenn |B)
Raz, i live in Massachusetts, this is like one of the worst locations for tempature changes. Mine are always in the cases when I'm not playing them. It's a pain in the butt, however I know that they are protected from the elements and from little dogs, sorry Koogie.
Later, Glenn |B)
Raz
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Thanks bro...I always thought cases were for giggingGWDavis28 said:
So I guess it really isn't the temperature, but the actual humidity...cause those cases won't keep out the heat, or most of it anyway...
Here in central Texas we get massive humidity swings on a daily basis. One day 20% the next 90%. Yesterday I picked up my Axis SS and it was sharp by almost half a step (humidity way up) but the action was perfect. I'm considering having Jon due the glue thing to my neck to help stabilize her.
jimmyp
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I think that the better quality guitars suffer much more from this sort of problem. My EVH is very sensitive to heat and humidity - little buzzes develop and the tuning is off a little, but my cheap jap Strat handles changes quite well - that is why I use it as my main travelling guitar, as well as the fact that the EBMMs are too valuable to bring on the planes. The case definitely plays a part though and does help keep things more stable
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those cheap guitars have a half inch of clearcoat on the neck. its the price you pay to have the feel of a unfinished neck. when i pick up a guitar with a finished neck now it feels like i have glue on my hands.
tommyindelaware
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Raz said:
unless they are dipped in catylized poly or something, ALL guitars do this.
higher typical humidity makes the wood wetter & softer.....allowing the strings bow the neck easier........
this is why ebmm made the truss rod so easy to adjust.......just a 1/4 turn or so & you should be back in business.........as easy as tunnig the guitar.....
&......extended dryness is much more dangerous & dynamic on a maple neck than humidity. it's important to monitor your room humidity.
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Raz
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Yes thank goodness for their superior design...Fortunately here in Ottawa, dryness isn't too much of an issue.tommyindelaware said:unless they are dipped in catylized poly or something, ALL guitars do this.
higher typical humidity makes the wood wetter & softer.....allowing the strings bow the neck easier........
this is why ebmm made the truss rod so easy to adjust.......just a 1/4 turn or so & you should be back in business.........as easy as tunnig the guitar.....
&......extended dryness is much more dangerous & dynamic on a maple neck than humidity. it's important to monitor your room humidity.
Jimi D said:Unless you have a humidifier on your furnace, dryness is a HUGE issue in the winter! Furnace heat is very, very, very dry, and since winter lasts 7 months here, that's a long dry stretch...
Jimi, would that be for a forced hot air system only, or would that include say a forced hot water system?
Glenn |B)
Norrin Radd
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I have to say I'm NOT a proponent of leaving the guitars in the case. Why? Well if you leave it out, the guitar has a chance to "adjust" itself slowly to the changes in humidity as the moisture content in the air gradually changes. If it's in a case where the humdity level remains constant, it will have to go through a big change. Sure, it may be in tune when you initially take it out, but it will, what I like to call, "go into shock", from going from no humidity to a lot of it all of a sudden or vice versa.
What will happen is that the humidity level in the air will affect the guitar as you are playing it and the wood will move. You are going to have to adjust it anyhow for the humidity level. I prefer to have all the movement already done and adjust before I start playing instead of during playing. Nothing like adjusting that truss rod on a Floyd system after the first six songs at the gig!
What will happen is that the humidity level in the air will affect the guitar as you are playing it and the wood will move. You are going to have to adjust it anyhow for the humidity level. I prefer to have all the movement already done and adjust before I start playing instead of during playing. Nothing like adjusting that truss rod on a Floyd system after the first six songs at the gig!
in a humid climate if the room is not conditioned then leaving your guitars in the case will lead to severe mold problems....mold loves damp wood in the dark without a through flow of air.
so now i hang my guitars regularly ..play them often and dehumidify the room once a month to kill the mold spores.
other than that i have no problems with wood moving around ...
except for the fact that all my neck plates (2 ernie ball guitars) split last summer due to the neck plates being tightened up in dry california and then shipped to damp hong kong where the bodies expanded but not the plates and eb replaced them all free of charge.
i live in hong kong where the humidity spends most of the time above 90 percent with lots of heat!!!!
so now i hang my guitars regularly ..play them often and dehumidify the room once a month to kill the mold spores.
other than that i have no problems with wood moving around ...
except for the fact that all my neck plates (2 ernie ball guitars) split last summer due to the neck plates being tightened up in dry california and then shipped to damp hong kong where the bodies expanded but not the plates and eb replaced them all free of charge.
i live in hong kong where the humidity spends most of the time above 90 percent with lots of heat!!!!
nobozos
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I live in Illinois, and humidity is pretty bad in the summer. I use Lemon Oil on my neck about once a month to clean it, but also to help with the humidity issue.
Here's my theory:
The neck is treated with a wax/oil formula already to help seal the wood. That's great, but it's still basically unfinished, so the wood is going to want to absorb moisture if it gets dry. I believe if you keep the neck regularly oiled, the wood stays essentially moist with oil, which will keep it from soaking up the water in the air. Also, because it is oil, it will tend to repel water, so once the moisture hits the neck, it stays outside the wood because it has an oil barrier to keep the water from soaking in.
I've been doing the once a month treatments on my neck for years, and the only time I have to re-adjust my neck is when I play a gig outside, in like 70% or greater humidity on a 90 degree day, after my guitar has been in the house all week. When those gigs do come up, I try to prepare for it by taking my guitar out of it's case, and leaving it in the enviroment at least an hour before the job, so that I can re-adjust the neck before I start playing. The next day, I will have to adjust it again to get it back to normal. No biggie.
Here's my theory:
The neck is treated with a wax/oil formula already to help seal the wood. That's great, but it's still basically unfinished, so the wood is going to want to absorb moisture if it gets dry. I believe if you keep the neck regularly oiled, the wood stays essentially moist with oil, which will keep it from soaking up the water in the air. Also, because it is oil, it will tend to repel water, so once the moisture hits the neck, it stays outside the wood because it has an oil barrier to keep the water from soaking in.
I've been doing the once a month treatments on my neck for years, and the only time I have to re-adjust my neck is when I play a gig outside, in like 70% or greater humidity on a 90 degree day, after my guitar has been in the house all week. When those gigs do come up, I try to prepare for it by taking my guitar out of it's case, and leaving it in the enviroment at least an hour before the job, so that I can re-adjust the neck before I start playing. The next day, I will have to adjust it again to get it back to normal. No biggie.
nobozos said:
arent you supposed to use gunstock oil and gunstock wax?
or is lemon oil ok
i thought it was only for the fretboard
also i live in australia where the humidity is
actually i have no idea
i guess its pretty constant
i know in summer it can get very sticky but
but as for the case vs stand issue
when ever my jp6 isnt in my hands it is LOCKED up inside my case
