I got another AL

[brentrocks]

Brent
Congrats on the new AL.

Regarding the Piezo, theres some good info here
http://www.ernieball.com/forums/music-man-guitars/21405-photo-request-al-qusetions-2.html
and this thread shows the splitter
http://www.ernieball.com/forums/mus...hn-petrucci-6-should-here-tue.html#post366072

Cheers
Spud

hey Spud...that stereo cable....is that just a special cable to handle 2 signals at one time? Glenn told me about the splitter box, i need to get one of those!! with the stereo cable, you just plugg it in to one of the two inputs on the guitar, and then goes to the splitter box, and then to the amp?

 

[roburado]

hey Spud...that stereo cable....is that just a special cable to handle 2 signals at one time? Glenn told me about the splitter box, i need to get one of those!! with the stereo cable, you just plugg it in to one of the two inputs on the guitar, and then goes to the splitter box, and then to the amp?

Brent, the stereo cable does indeed handle two signals at one time. Plug it into the stereo output of the guitar. Then, it goes into some sort of splitter device, which could just be a Y cable that splits the two signals apart. Then, the cable that has the magnetic pickups' signal goes to the amp. The cable with the piezo signal goes to wherever you want to connect the thing to. One good thing is to send the signal to a DI box with a ground lift to knock out ground-loop hum. (I don't know how many times people have posted here to the forum with "Why does my JP's piezo hum/buzz, etc.?" This DI/ground-lift solution is generally the one they need.) Then, the signal goes from DI to amp, PA, etc.

Unfortunately, or perhaps not unfortunately, EBMM has discontinued their splitter box. The good news is as I have said, you don't necessarily need the splitter box.

 

[brokenvail]

Congrats man. I bet she sounds as good as she look!

 

[Spudmurphy]

Hiya Brent.
That's right, the stereo output on the guitar carries two signals via the stereo lead.

As you can see from the photo in that thread I mentioned above, my splitter box(the one with the Fishman sticker) is a home made affair. It effectively splits the two signals into an A and B output. Per the labels on the box one(the piezo only signal) goes to the AER Acoustic amp and my other signal(the SSS or in your case the MM90's) will go to the Marshall or my Mesa F50 now!!
The problem is Brent you are going to have to get yourself a good acoustic amp ha!!
Any queries come back to me - believe me I was confused at first but it's easy - just get prepared and get a stereo cable and a splitter ready.
Do they still have Radio Shack or similar because you could buy the "splitter components" and make one yourself.

 

[brentrocks]

Unfortunately, or perhaps not unfortunately, EBMM has discontinued their splitter box. The good news is as I have said, you don't necessarily need the splitter box.

if i use a stereo cable, couldnt i just run that direct into the amp and just adjust the levels (m90 & piezo) from the guitar?

edit: and just switch from clean to distorted on my amp to get the different tones that way?

 

[JMB27]

Hey Brent, just saw the pics of your new gee-tar. Good score

play-on , eh!

Joel

 

[beej]

Brent- the stereo cable has a ground and two hot leads (it's called TRS: tip, ring, sleeve). Each hot (mag & piezo) shares the common ground. So making a splitter box is easy- you wire up two jacks, each one has the same ground and then one of the hot leads.

So that's what the stereo cable is good for: carrying two signals. Doesn't make sense to use it in a regular amp. Rather, use a mono cable and have the guitar's on-board preamp mix the two signals for you via the volume controls.

FYI, I use my piezo through the clean channel of my amp frequently. Sounds pretty good. Not as good as a DI into the board or an acoustic amp, but it's a very usable acoustic tone and sounds good on its own.

 

[Spudmurphy]

I think all bases are covered.
You can also just use a mono lead that will carry both the piezo and the mm90 together. The bottom control knob will be the volume for the piezo, the middle and top knobs will be the tone and volume for the MM90's.

I just can't stress enough that you will need to put the piezo through a dedicated amp - whether it be an acoustic amp or the PA.


I put my piezo through a 60's 18 watt amp and it sounded like Billy Gibbons on steroids not an acoustic guitar!!!

 

[lenny]

did you see the thread on TGP?

i'm so anxious to try the piezo...am i gonna need one of those 2-way splitters for my cord to the amp?

the best way is to run it into a DI box and to the board and bring it back through the monitors

 

[brentrocks]

wow all of this stuf you guys are talking about is way above my head... i'm not used to all of this technical stuff...i just plug into a 2X12 and rock, no FX, no pedals...i'm a simple kinda guy

i'll just have to experiment with it and see what gives...i may ask for help once i get it?

 

[Tim O'Sullivan]

As I was away in Vegas for the last couple of weeks, I take it you have already sold this guitar?

 

[brentrocks]

As I was away in Vegas for the last couple of weeks, I take it you have already sold this guitar?

 

[Sub1 Zero]

GASP! Brent are you EVH-less?

 

[brentrocks]

GASP! Brent are you EVH-less?

yes, for the moment

 

[Sub1 Zero]

You need a Silo next bro

 

[brentrocks]

You need a Silo next bro

our band just broke up so i'm cooling it on guitar buying for a while, i think.....we didnt really breakup...the bass player had to pawn all his gear (and our pa stuff too)to catch up on his house payments...no the brightest bulb in the box

 

[Sub1 Zero]

^ That sucks. I'm shooting for a band full of responsible people this time around, and I'm just about there

 

[brentrocks]

^ That sucks. I'm shooting for a band full of responsible people this time around, and I'm just about there

yeah, i got into a group of irresponsable guys that cant budget thier $$$

 

[roburado]

If you're planning to do a one-amp set-up, you don't even need the stereo cable. You just need mono.

 

[brentrocks]

If you're planning to do a one-amp set-up, you don't even need the stereo cable. You just need mono.

i did some experimenting and i think that one amp setup will do for now...the piezeo sound is awesome!!