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jacobofew

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It's true. I played a couple of JP's at the neck was just bleh compared to my Super Sport. The only thing I don't like about the super sport is the lack of shaping for my picking arm. So tell me what other EB's have the same neck shape and as a bonus, a warmer wood than basswood!
 

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The neck takes a little bit to get used to at first. Once you play them for a while though, they are awesome. And "Bleh" is deffinatley the wrong choice in word. The necks on the Jps are different.

Play another one for a while and see if you get used to it. :D
 

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You might want to change "hate" to something a little more user friendly. You won't get much support with that word here.

When I first got my Luke, it took a week or 2 to get used to it, maybe with some time, you will feel the same.
 

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There were other things on it I didn't like such as the massive cutaway. I guess, I bought my super sport to sell it as an investment, then I fell in love with it and don't want to get rid of it. Did I stumble apon my main axe accidently? lol
 

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It's true. I played a couple of JP's at the neck was just bleh compared to my Super Sport. The only thing I don't like about the super sport is the lack of shaping for my picking arm. So tell me what other EB's have the same neck shape and as a bonus, a warmer wood than basswood!

Check out the Silo/Silo Special. The neck shape is very comfortable - easy adjustment from the Axis. Body wood is Alder. Has the forearm contour. It's also a workhorse of a guitar. It can cover any style of music you want.
 

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There were other things on it I didn't like such as the massive cutaway. I guess, I bought my super sport to sell it as an investment, then I fell in love with it and don't want to get rid of it. Did I stumble apon my main axe accidently? lol

That could be; here is my recent "guitar journey" - back in 2004 I bought a Silo Special SSS with rosewood board and a trem (very late-60s Strat-like) and liked it well enough, but sold it off in 2005 because I still had GAS pains for vintage reissue Fenders and needed to fund the next guitar. This time I went Tele and discovered that a Tele-type instrument will always be a "#2" for me behind a Strat-type. That also cured me of really wanting a purely vintage reissue guitar

So I got the bright idea to get something that combined features of all the guitars I was GAS-ing for at the time: 3 pickups, contoured body and trem like a Strat; maple neck and ash body of a Tele, and soapbars like an SG Special. I ordered up a very nice Albert Lee with MM-90s, received in 2006. My "dream guitar", right? It was a fine guitar, but it wasn't me - although I'm sure the current owner is still loving it.

I thought about all the guitars I had owned from say 2002-2006 and came back to my real favorite being the Silo Special. I ordered up a 2007 LE Silo Special (see my Avatar photo) with rosewood fingerboard, SSS pickups, and a trem and I couldn't be happier; that's my real "dream guitar" that I'll keep coming back to. That's the beauty of EBMM's lineup - there is something for everyone.

Right now I'm waiting to see what the 25th Anniversary models are, but I'm thinking I need an Axis SuperSport with MM90s to fill my Tele/LP Special slot since my Silo Special fills the Strat slot so nicely.
 
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It's true. I played a couple of JP's at the neck was just bleh compared to my Super Sport. The only thing I don't like about the super sport is the lack of shaping for my picking arm. So tell me what other EB's have the same neck shape and as a bonus, a warmer wood than basswood!

As mentioned, the Silo and Silo Spec necks are not too different from the ASS (ditto Albert Lee, but it sounds like you might favor humbuckers). How about the mahogany body Silo Gold Roller?
 

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Its ok to be disappointed and Im even ok with Hate....but life is pretty short to get that lathered up......

Basswood is a warm wood......try a silo or look for a used 20th silo.....
 

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Interesting, this has happened to me many times... see a guitar on the internet that looks amazing, sounds amazing, you GAS for months and when you FINALLY get your hands on one...... disappointment. The exact same thing happened for me when I played a JP6. It had nothing to do with the quality of the instrument (excellent), but everything to do with my style and the feel of the neck in my hand.

Sadness and depression set in, I vowed (ignorantly) to not play an EBMM again. Until one day when I happened upon a lovely natural quilt ASS quilt and

BAM. My life is forever changed. I sold all my carved top set necks, the flawless 24 fretters from the east coast (you know which ones) and the not-so-flawless 22 fretters from further inland (you also know which ones).

I bonded with the ASS like no other guitar before. Same company as the JP, same quality, even many of the same materials, much different guitar. Not every guitar is for every player. I understand your pain over the JP because I felt it too. But I'd agree with everyone else here saying that you should definately check out the Silhouette for a different flavor than your ASS. Much thanks to BP and the gang for giving an assortment of quality instruments to fit the styles of many different players!
 

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I am not a fan of the petrucci signature either. just does not sit with me due to the fretboard. i do like the axis so not all gutars will be the same. still, the build quality from what i have seen on the guitars are wonderful so you will get a quality guitar no matter the model.
 

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I kind of get what you mean about the lack of contours. I have a SUB1 and I love the sound and feel of the neck, but just can't get too comfortable with the picking arm. I also find the Petrucci neck to be a little flat for my taste.

However, if you haven't tried the Silhouette yet, that will be the dream guitar you will love. I guess there are subtle differences, but I find the neck to be pretty close to the Axis. It's got a great, natural contour and sounds awesome. It's really the way to go.
 

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Interesting, this has happened to me many times... see a guitar on the internet that looks amazing, sounds amazing, you GAS for months and when you FINALLY get your hands on one...... disappointment. The exact same thing happened for me when I played a JP6. It had nothing to do with the quality of the instrument (excellent), but everything to do with my style and the feel of the neck in my hand.

Sadness and depression set in, I vowed (ignorantly) to not play an EBMM again. Until one day when I happened upon a lovely natural quilt ASS quilt and

BAM. My life is forever changed. I sold all my carved top set necks, the flawless 24 fretters from the east coast (you know which ones) and the not-so-flawless 22 fretters from further inland (you also know which ones).

I bonded with the ASS like no other guitar before. Same company as the JP, same quality, even many of the same materials, much different guitar. Not every guitar is for every player. I understand your pain over the JP because I felt it too. But I'd agree with everyone else here saying that you should definately check out the Silhouette for a different flavor than your ASS. Much thanks to BP and the gang for giving an assortment of quality instruments to fit the styles of many different players!

Good response to an awkward thread, which (I'm sorry) I do not understand the point of. There's a slew of guitars that I don't get along with, including some of rock's super star guitars. But it's never occurred to me to go to one of those manufacturer's forums and start a thread about it, lol. Ah, well.
 

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Its ok to be disappointed and Im even ok with Hate....but life is pretty short to get that lathered up......

Basswood is a warm wood......try a silo or look for a used 20th silo.....

That is simply beautiful, here you have a company owner giving you free practical advice on what you should try as opposed to what you thought was good for you, pointing you in the direction of what will probably suit you the most, you don't get that from any other manufacturers. Respect!

See.... in my ideal world there should be a workshop held by people like Mr. Ball in every town where people are able to consult the manufacturer and then coached into making the perfect choice by trying the instrument which they designed for that specific purpose which you are seeking.

Example: Are you a blues player that wants a fat tone, try this one, are you a widdly widdly heavy metal type of guy, this way please... and so on.

It's a dream, I know, but at least we've got this forum and we should all be thankful to EBMM for hosting it in such a humble and down to earth manner.
 

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Basswood is a warm wood......try a silo or look for a used 20th silo.....

Not to hijack this thread, and I'll start a new one if needed but...

I never realized basswood was considered a warm wood. With that, is it the mahogony neck that makes my BFR warmer than the JPM? The JPM has more bass, but is also punchier. I'd guess that the first generation JP6 (pre d sonic) would be similar in this respect. The BFR does have a LOT of mids. From what I've read on this thread, it seems like the BFR shouldn't have that warmer note attack... unless I'm calling rounder warmer where someone else wouldn't?

Man, I'm glad I don't build guitars... I'd never figure out which woods to use for which sounds. lol

I guess id doesn't matter... the BFR rocks my face off so who cares about the whys... LOL

Oh, and I love the neck. I'm surprised to read that it wouldn't be liked. Small but not flat. I hate, yes hate, those FLAT wizard necks... thin is bad when it's too wide. The BFR is thin, but narrow enough to not feel like it's pushing on the sides of my hand. So far, I havne't met an EBMM neck I don't like. It doesn't seem to matter the carve, there is something about it that always still feels balanced.
 

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I think basswood gets maligned for the wrong reasons, simply because it was such a popular wood during the shred era, and from what I've seen the quality of basswood in today's instruments (not just EBMM) is much better than it was in the 90s. It's not the wood that is bright, because it isn't from my experience. It's the construction of the guitar and the sum of all of its components.
 

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yeah, I've never understood why basswood gets such a knock... I've always found that my well built basswood guitars have a lot to offer. I'm really pleased that my guitars have such different sounds... it'd be hard to say which is better. They are just both great depending on what sound I'm looking for.
 

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It's true. I played a couple of JP's at the neck was just bleh compared to my Super Sport. The only thing I don't like about the super sport is the lack of shaping for my picking arm. So tell me what other EB's have the same neck shape and as a bonus, a warmer wood than basswood!

Have you seen the new 25th?

This could be exactly the thing you are looking for. Axis shape with a forearm contour, plus the tone block!

Otherwise, definitely see if you can grab a 20th Silo, outstandingly good guitar.
 

jacobofew

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yeah, I've never understood why basswood gets such a knock... I've always found that my well built basswood guitars have a lot to offer. I'm really pleased that my guitars have such different sounds... it'd be hard to say which is better. They are just both great depending on what sound I'm looking for.

Good comment. I like basswood and have played it forever and still will, but for layering and the occasional metal mood, I prefer mahogany. It goes well with my new custom Splawn amp:) I'll check out the Silhouette!
 
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