maciek
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Music Man not worth it 
the biggest bullsh** I ever heard in my life
the biggest bullsh** I ever heard in my life
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acidpuppy
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maybe the guy's just frustrated cause he can't get one...
Gio_Force_One
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it really is one of the best guitars i have ever played if not the best
ba2m
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last week a person just told me that musicman guitars is just as popular as gibson basses.. tough they are good but they didn't go well in the market.. then i just shut up and let that conversation passed.. because i don't care about what he thinks
slukather
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At times l get a guitarist come up to me to talk **** about my gear, i just let it slide, i get the last laugh when l start playing, and the sweet sound of the Luke come shining through. Most of the time it's guys who play either G or F, i've never given other guitarists sh!t about their gear, it's their choice, i'll sh!t stir some mates, but that's just mates, one mate plays PRS and we are always at each other about our gear, but that's all in good fun.
germangallardo
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You know, I dont think it's a race like there's a first, second and last place.
I like Music Man, I haven't tried all the models but I do like them as a company. It feels like home. I like the attitude of the company and what they represent with their products. Quality, looks, cutting edge, tone, technology, innovation. It's all there, with that feeling of just a great, classy instrument.
People have asked me why music man? I let them try my JP. Usually they understand why I choose MM.
I like Music Man, I haven't tried all the models but I do like them as a company. It feels like home. I like the attitude of the company and what they represent with their products. Quality, looks, cutting edge, tone, technology, innovation. It's all there, with that feeling of just a great, classy instrument.
People have asked me why music man? I let them try my JP. Usually they understand why I choose MM.
PeteDuBaldo
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Some people just don't know any better (you can usually tell these from the rest), and I tend to be amused by their comments. Friendly banter back and forth, no harm no foul type stuff.
However, on the rare occasion that someone comes up to me to really truly talk smack about our gear, tone, and/or the band in general, I tend to push back with one of two comments:
"Thanks, I'm glad you liked the set!"
"You're right, I'm going to have to quit the band"
Or, if they are a total sloppy-drunk trouble-causing no-good <insert expletive here>:
"Well I didn't see any of those girls in the crowd dancing for you and ready to jump on the end of your (rooster) so GTFOut. NOW."
The first time I busted that one out was when someone tried to pick a fight with our singer during the middle of a song, while the dance floor was packed. Steve was real good about it and wouldn't toe with him because he knew the guy was plastered. A few minutes later the guy came back and tried to get on stage, screaming "you suck, play some zepp!" right in the middle of "good times bad times" - McFly? Hello? McFly? then tried grabbing the mic from Steve, at which point he graduated to the head of the class and got hit with my spike through the mic comment to the jaw-dropping amazement of my bandmates and the bouncers rushed up and tossed him out.
However, on the rare occasion that someone comes up to me to really truly talk smack about our gear, tone, and/or the band in general, I tend to push back with one of two comments:
"Thanks, I'm glad you liked the set!"
"You're right, I'm going to have to quit the band"
Or, if they are a total sloppy-drunk trouble-causing no-good <insert expletive here>:
"Well I didn't see any of those girls in the crowd dancing for you and ready to jump on the end of your (rooster) so GTFOut. NOW."
The first time I busted that one out was when someone tried to pick a fight with our singer during the middle of a song, while the dance floor was packed. Steve was real good about it and wouldn't toe with him because he knew the guy was plastered. A few minutes later the guy came back and tried to get on stage, screaming "you suck, play some zepp!" right in the middle of "good times bad times" - McFly? Hello? McFly? then tried grabbing the mic from Steve, at which point he graduated to the head of the class and got hit with my spike through the mic comment to the jaw-dropping amazement of my bandmates and the bouncers rushed up and tossed him out.
beej
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he he he ... I love your gigs Pete. Glad I've had the pleasure of seeing the crowd up close
PeteDuBaldo
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They sure are a fun bunch, aren't they?! Never a dull moment at a Yellow 9 gig...
Next gig Friday Sept 17th
Next gig Friday Sept 17th
Jack FFR1846
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kbaim
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I'm usually pleasantly surprised when other guitarists come up to me after i play to see what the guitar is.
They typically say they love the tone (piezo helps) and didnt know ernie ball made guitars but that they use their strings. If they skew older theyve heard of luke and petrucci and albert and sometimes morse, if they are younger players usually they dont know these players...but the tone still wins them over.
What i like is that even through the house PA w/o any effects the guitar still sounds beautiful clean
They typically say they love the tone (piezo helps) and didnt know ernie ball made guitars but that they use their strings. If they skew older theyve heard of luke and petrucci and albert and sometimes morse, if they are younger players usually they dont know these players...but the tone still wins them over.
What i like is that even through the house PA w/o any effects the guitar still sounds beautiful clean
D.K.
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Just my 2 cents:
What is best and what is not can be argued to death. However, there is a clearly defined notion of an "optimum", which we can also describe as "the best bang for the buck". In other words we are talking about a product of a threshold value - in terms of material quality, build quality, visual appeal and the price. If You go beyond that and, say, increase the price or use rarer materials (exotic woods, pure gold hardware etc.), the gain You get from that is less than the prcie increase. On the other hand, if You go down with an aspect (say, build or finish quality), the positive effect of a smaller price will be overshadowed by the negative effects in other aspects.
From my experience with many different guitar makers, EBMM provides exactly that optimum. Yes, You could build guitar from more expensive parts, use more expensive woods, completely hand build everything without using machines and price the product accordingly. Yet the outcome would (possibly) be only a tad better, whereas the price would go WAY up. So, in other words, EBMM is, to me, trully the brand which can claim "If it doesn't sound right, it's all down to Your skill - the instrument itself has no limitations, everything is possible with it".
You can also invest insane amounts into marketing Your brand and spare costs in quality control (e.g. Fender standard) or hand them over to the customer/investor (e.g. Fender CS, however (un)reasonable their pricing is). Accordingly, You either get less for the same money, or the same for much more money. EBMM wins.
Sorry for the long post
What is best and what is not can be argued to death. However, there is a clearly defined notion of an "optimum", which we can also describe as "the best bang for the buck". In other words we are talking about a product of a threshold value - in terms of material quality, build quality, visual appeal and the price. If You go beyond that and, say, increase the price or use rarer materials (exotic woods, pure gold hardware etc.), the gain You get from that is less than the prcie increase. On the other hand, if You go down with an aspect (say, build or finish quality), the positive effect of a smaller price will be overshadowed by the negative effects in other aspects.
From my experience with many different guitar makers, EBMM provides exactly that optimum. Yes, You could build guitar from more expensive parts, use more expensive woods, completely hand build everything without using machines and price the product accordingly. Yet the outcome would (possibly) be only a tad better, whereas the price would go WAY up. So, in other words, EBMM is, to me, trully the brand which can claim "If it doesn't sound right, it's all down to Your skill - the instrument itself has no limitations, everything is possible with it".
You can also invest insane amounts into marketing Your brand and spare costs in quality control (e.g. Fender standard) or hand them over to the customer/investor (e.g. Fender CS, however (un)reasonable their pricing is). Accordingly, You either get less for the same money, or the same for much more money. EBMM wins
.Sorry for the long post
Sosomething
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In my experience, EBMM guitars are held in the same esteem as G&L, Hamer USA, PRS, Heritage, etc. If you've owned an played various models from all of those brands, you know that EBMM compares very well to them in most factors and eclipses them all in ergonomics and innovative little touches.
EBMM is a smaller company (like all those I mentioned except for PRS), but most players who even care about gear are aware of those guitars that Petrucci, Morse, and Lukather play with the little headstocks... Anyone who would try to tell you that they had anything in common with an import Dean or are in any way inferior to a regular USA Gibson is either trying to sell you something else or is an idiot.
Simple.
EBMM is a smaller company (like all those I mentioned except for PRS), but most players who even care about gear are aware of those guitars that Petrucci, Morse, and Lukather play with the little headstocks...
Anyone who would try to tell you that they had anything in common with an import Dean or are in any way inferior to a regular USA Gibson is either trying to sell you something else or is an idiot.Simple.
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ScoobySteve
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Like I said earlier I get mixed reactions from local guitar stores and Guitar Centers.
Some Guitar Centers, particularly Hollywood, ask me what guitar I play, I say EBMM, they freak out, and we have a geek moment about how great the guitars are.
Another GC... I asked if they carried any Ernie Ball Music Man Guitars, and the dude told me, "Nah bro, they make string and accessories."I was going to point out the Reflex hanging on the wall behind him, but I didn't want to ruin his day. I smiled then I went back into their vault and played the JPX there.
EBMM is making a name for itself through the good old fashioned way, hybridized with new innovative ways. In the end, word of mouth that EBMMs rock, will win people over, especially when they see someone playing one live.
Some Guitar Centers, particularly Hollywood, ask me what guitar I play, I say EBMM, they freak out, and we have a geek moment about how great the guitars are.
Another GC... I asked if they carried any Ernie Ball Music Man Guitars, and the dude told me, "Nah bro, they make string and accessories."I was going to point out the Reflex hanging on the wall behind him, but I didn't want to ruin his day. I smiled then I went back into their vault and played the JPX there.
EBMM is making a name for itself through the good old fashioned way, hybridized with new innovative ways. In the end, word of mouth that EBMMs rock, will win people over, especially when they see someone playing one live.
jamminjim
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I'll put my blue Sub 1 twin hummer up against a Classic LP any day of the week. It plays easier and sounds better to me.
Jimmyb
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After I've finished playing, the room has usually been cleared of people, so I don't really get to talk to people about the gear!
To be honest though, I try not to put too much sway on what other people think about stuff. If I'm going to buy something, I go off what it does for me, not popular opinion.
You do have to laugh at some of the comments people make though...
To be honest though, I try not to put too much sway on what other people think about stuff. If I'm going to buy something, I go off what it does for me, not popular opinion.
You do have to laugh at some of the comments people make though...
