Introduction and Guitar Rig

[threeminutesboy]

BTW, all the stuff you see above was PowerPoint. I do use Illustrator a lot, just not usually for rigs.

How come you can achieve that with PP The Mesa logo is Powerpoint ?

How long does it take to achieve such drawing with PP ?

I am really impressed

 

[hal9000]

That's pretty interesting stuff there Hal. I've been considering a F series amp, 50 or 30, leaning a bit towards a 30 because I don't want to blow the house down. Later on I can just add the extra cab. But with the mod you just showed maybe a 50 will work...........I believe in my search of F series info in the past I've come across your info on Harmony Central. There are some pretty cool F series setups over there.

Well, if you're interested in the F-series I've owned my F-100 2x12 combo for over 3.5 years and through hundreds of practices and gigs it has performed flawlessly. In the first post of the F-series Lounge, Dann'sTheMan has put up a bunch of clips from all the members if you'd like to have a listen: http://acapella.harmony-central.com...p?s=&threadid=885856&perpage=100&pagenumber=1

As far as the F-50 vs. F-30 it really depends on which voicing you prefer because they are both very loud. The only caveat with the F-30 is that it's rated for 22 W RMS clean, so if you play with a loud drummer, you might not have enough clean headroom. The F-30 has more of a British sound too it with the 2xEL-84 output stage which will give excellent crunch, where as the F-50 has an American voice in both the Blackface-styled cleans and Mesa overdrive.

The FX Mix Master mod gives you a simple method for having a final master over both channels and also allows one to get better low volume performance. As you can see in my first post, I use a G-Major which is fantastic for use in getting low volume sounds even out of my F-100. My rule of thumb is to always use the OD master at higher than 9:00 and then attenuate the loop to get the appropriate output volume.

I thought you might like to see a rig I did for my friend Tommi Inkila whose recent album Premiere is an F-50 tour de force:

 

[hal9000]

How come you can achieve that with PP The Mesa logo is Powerpoint ?

How long does it take to achieve such drawing with PP ?

I am really impressed

Thanks. I actually used PP a lot for my work, and it naturally progressed into the kind of photorealistic drawings I posted. Yes, everything is in PowerPoint, except the quilted maple top and grill cloth which were rendered in a photo program.

This is all PP too, which I thought you guys could appreciate:

 

[threeminutesboy]

And I thought I was an advanced MSOffice user ... I'm down

But lucky me, I have some studio recording session tonight so ...I feel my mood is up again

 

[hal9000]

And I thought I was an advanced MSOffice user ... I'm down

But lucky me, I have some studio recording session tonight so ...I feel my mood is up again

LOL! To be fair, I don't think I've ever seen anybody else do this kind of work, which basically means I'm the only one crazy enough to try to pull it off.

Good luck with your recording.

 

[SteveB]

Tommi's rig

Man, that must be one noisy Tuner pedal in Tommi's rig! I can't figure out what noise the Noise Supressor is squashing in that signal chain...

 

[Bungo]

Having been inspired by your work in this thread hal, I thought I'd have a go myself!

I tried PowerPoint but all I could do was make really dull presentations with bits flying in from the side and that kind of junk, so I went back to my preferred package of 'PencilPoint' and came up with this.

As I'm sure you can tell, I'm very proud of my first attempt!













Bungos Rig

 

[hal9000]

Man, that must be one noisy Tuner pedal in Tommi's rig! I can't figure out what noise the Noise Supressor is squashing in that signal chain...

Nah, the tuner isn't noisy at all, so the only noise is due to high gain from the F-50. I can ask him if you're really curious.

I don't personally feel the need for a noise gate with my F-100, because it's a very quiet amp even with a ton of gain dialed-in.

 

[threeminutesboy]

As I'm sure you can tell, I'm very proud of my first attempt!

LOL !

 

[hal9000]

Having been inspired by your work in this thread hal, I thought I'd have a go myself!

I tried PowerPoint but all I could do was make really dull presentations with bits flying in from the side and that kind of junk, so I went back to my preferred package of 'PencilPoint' and came up with this.

As I'm sure you can tell, I'm very proud of my first attempt!













Bungos Rig

I'm glad I could inspire you Bungo. I actually like the cartoon feel you pulled-off. If you seriously want to attempt a rig I can help you out.

 

[SteveB]

Bungo, I have that exact same rig!

Hal9000.. I'd be interested to know if he hears any difference in the noise level if he eliminates that pedal (Noise Supporessor) altogether, versus having it in the chain.

 

[hal9000]

Bungo, I have that exact same rig!

Hal9000.. I'd be interested to know if he hears any difference in the noise level if he eliminates that pedal (Noise Supporessor) altogether, versus having it in the chain.

I got a response back from Tommi Steve. He said that he uses the NS-2 in the extreme case where he's in a venue that has either bad power or poor acoustics which cause excessive feedback. He normally doesn't employ it all the much, so it's more of a safety measure.

 

[SteveB]

Hal,

That's very interesting. Thanks for bouncing the question off of Tommi!

 

[Eilif]

Actually, I've had the hal9000F-SeriesMixPotMasterRevB.jpg file on my desktop for weeks and weeks now...just haven't had time to get a pair of plugs and try out the mod.

My Contour settings are very close to your Vintage High Gain settings. In fact, seeing your settings for the first time, over in the F-series Lounge, made me go "Aha!" and run to my amp to try some tweaking. I'd upgraded to the F-30 from a Marshall AVT50, and although I love the F-30 (my first tube amp!) and the warmth and great sounds, I was missing that Marshall vibe. I've since becomed accustomed to the Boogie vibe, but I still hit Contour when I need a quick Marshall fix. The main differences between my settings and yours are that my Mid is at 12:00 (lots of mids already coming from the Axis pickups), and my Master is around 7:30 since I'm a bedroom player and would like to remain married. I occasionally fiddle with having the gain anywhere between 8:00 and 10:30; it's currently on 8:30.

Have you tried my low volume mod yet?



How about these settings?

 

[hal9000]

Actually, I've had the hal9000F-SeriesMixPotMasterRevB.jpg file on my desktop for weeks and weeks now...just haven't had time to get a pair of plugs and try out the mod.

My Contour settings are very close to your Vintage High Gain settings. In fact, seeing your settings for the first time, over in the F-series Lounge, made me go "Aha!" and run to my amp to try some tweaking. I'd upgraded to the F-30 from a Marshall AVT50, and although I love the F-30 (my first tube amp!) and the warmth and great sounds, I was missing that Marshall vibe. I've since becomed accustomed to the Boogie vibe, but I still hit Contour when I need a quick Marshall fix. The main differences between my settings and yours are that my Mid is at 12:00 (lots of mids already coming from the Axis pickups), and my Master is around 7:30 since I'm a bedroom player and would like to remain married. I occasionally fiddle with having the gain anywhere between 8:00 and 10:30; it's currently on 8:30.

Sweet! I'm glad I could help. I love the vintage high gain setting because it's so clean and dynamic. Even at 9:00 on the gain I still have plenty of saturation, but it cleans up wonderfully with my Ravelle's volume knob and cuts through like a champ.

For the Mix pot master, you can just get two (2) 1/4" TS plugs from your local electronics supply store like Radio Shack. Or, you can use two spare cables if you'd like. You don't need to solder them to test out how it works. Insert one cable into the FX send and not into anything else. For the FX return cable, just get some aluminum foil and wrap it around the unused end with a rubber band to secure it down. If you're using a 1/4" plug for the FX return, it's probably easier to bend a paper clip so that it runs through the Center and ground lugs making the same connection that a wire and solder would do.

Once you get the Mix pot master working, start with the Channel 2 master @ 9:00 or above, and reduce the Mix pot until you get your desired volume.