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Luiz Gustavo

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Hi to all.

I'm thinking in one JP model cuz I was with one thing in mind:

to put one Variax circuit into piezo on JP model.

Does anyone has tryed this ?

A friend here did this, but using the original variax piezo bridge (LR Bags).

So I could have those tons of "vintage like" sounds and that weight of JP that lack in Variax models.
 

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I do remember someone doing that- and I recall they did replace the bridge with the Variax bridge.

Would make a great project. Not sure how tweakable the variax circuitry is, and whether or not you would be able to use the JP's piezo. I think you would just have to try and see. Worst case you'd have to install the Variax bridge.
 

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It wouldn't work, because the Variax relies on pickups built into the saddles. You couldn't have elements from both the piezo and the Variax on the same bridge.
 

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The Variax uses piezos - those are the sensing element, right? So the question as I understand it is whether you could use the stock piezos in the JP or have to revert to the stock Variax bridge with its own piezos.

My guess is that the JPs piezos would work, provided you could adjust the sensitivity, etc. of the Variax electronics. Then again, the sound from these piezos would be a little different, so I'm not sure how that would affect the Varaix tones. A really really cool project to be sure.
 
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Beej, I was thinking exactly like you.

The fact is that each piezo is individual, each string have their own.

Today I tryed in my Frenandes bridge, just replacing the saddles that are teh same type and worked great.

Not only a sigle db in sound change or tone change.

If you have to adjust string volume just use workbench and you ready to jam in 5 minutes.

Would like to know more about JP bridge.

The variax circiut is very small and can stay between neck an middle pickup of an strat type guitar.

Just need to find a solution for that strange RJ45 jack and one type of switching between normal p/us
 

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beej said:
The Variax uses piezos - those are the sensing element, right? So the question as I understand it is whether you could use the stock piezos in the JP or have to revert to the stock Variax bridge with its own piezos.

I think I've seen some pics of a SG or some other guitar with Variax circuitry and Graphtec piezo saddles, so I guess it's possible to use other piezo saddles for Variax.
 

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smk5150 said:
I think I've seen some pics of a SG or some other guitar with Variax circuitry and Graphtec piezo saddles, so I guess it's possible to use other piezo saddles for Variax.

I know. There's a lot of options of various brands and models too like tune-o-matic, strat styles and even tremolos.
 

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Damn, Luiz. Now you've got me wondering if I could the Variax circuitry in my Piezo'd Morse ... hmmm ...
 

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Beej, I did a test on Variax 300 and 500 and they are the same sh!t.

The sound is awesome, but very poor contruction guitars. Even worst than korean worst Squier.

I'm wondering in a JP or Morse. I wouldn't did this on morse 'cuz that guitar is tonal complete to me due those infinite (11) tones changes.

But in a JP could be a good try.

I was thinking in a Custom Made Les Paul like this one that my friend is making, without that lower contour at front of the body.

This is a tone monster. Neck Thru Mahogany, Brasilian Rosewood Top and Cedar Sub top. Kent Armstrong Pickups with splitter to run both humbuckers, and pull/push to go single coil each one, like a strat.

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He work at home near my house and is a good friend. Knows a lot about wood and construction.

But those guitars are sooo expensive, something like 2,5k.

He only uses true Brazilian wood.

More pics here, KIAN Guitars

http://fotos.terra.com.br/album.cgi/*716087
 
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Hey Luiz- looks great! I used to have a Lado (Canadian Luthier) guitar that looked similar. Mahagony with a Wenge top and the same look where the body contour is.

The electronics are going to take up quite a bit of room and the Morse is already so crowded w/ switches and pickups. I'd think the JP is the way to go.

Looks like there's a bit of info on the Line6 Forum. Also saw a site from a guy who's done a number of Variax conversions.
 

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beej said:
Hey Luiz- looks great! I used to have a Lado (Canadian Luthier) guitar that looked similar. Mahagony with a Wenge top and the same look where the body contour is.

The electronics are going to take up quite a bit of room and the Morse is already so crowded w/ switches and pickups. I'd think the JP is the way to go.

Looks like there's a bit of info on the Line6 Forum. Also saw a site from a guy who's done a number of Variax conversions.

Beej, will make a try. But will find a way to not open that LARGE hole in one JP.


Hey BackdoorBandit, thanks for the link. Will help a lot, that info about swithcing is what I was looking for.
 
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