JP is not good at all!!!!!

[BetaCAM]

To BP,

In no way I wanted to offend or cause unnecessary debate and I wasn't comparing the guitars in my strings example, simply sharing my experience.
The SUB came with RPS, and if the people here remember I had terrible tunning issues and it only got solved by replacing the strings and lubricating the saddles and the nut.

I tried some EB strings before I tried the Daddario and decided that it works best for me on the SUB...

To the poster:

I had problem like yours on my Old RG550 which I sold to buy the current SUB1,
what I did is using a sand paper in order to sand the saddle just a bit, so the string wont bump into something that could cause breakage.

I also lubricate the strings using Big Bend's Nut Sauce after I got it recommendations by forum members, great recommendation!... it does help...
I never broke a string since...

 

[mesadualrec]

the strings arent unravelling at the ball end but it is like they are,they are all snapping down at the bridge

my first thoughts were that I may be that I aint putting enough slack on the string before clamping it then this is causing them to snap but my fender custom shop jeff beck has the same system,and I have had no problems like this



could one of you guys who have a JP give a step by step to how to restring the machine as this can be the only problem,ie, how much string you pull through the machine head before clamping etc etc. as i stated My custom shop JB has the same setup and I aint had any problems


cheers folks im now gonna pass this thread onto the other member on the mesa boogie forum who has the same problem


cheers
Euan

 

[geektard]

I aint putting enough slack on the string before clamping it

You don't need no slack for locking tuners. Just point the holes toward the bridge, pull as tite as you can, lock, then stratch & tune. Those extra winds ain't doing no good for your lockers.

 

[uvacom]

the strings arent unravelling at the ball end but it is like they are,they are all snapping down at the bridge

my first thoughts were that I may be that I aint putting enough slack on the string before clamping it then this is causing them to snap but my fender custom shop jeff beck has the same system,and I have had no problems like this



could one of you guys who have a JP give a step by step to how to restring the machine as this can be the only problem,ie, how much string you pull through the machine head before clamping etc etc. as i stated My custom shop JB has the same setup and I aint had any problems


cheers folks im now gonna pass this thread onto the other member on the mesa boogie forum who has the same problem


cheers
Euan

Okay, well if they are snapping at the bridge it's nothing to do with the tuners - but anyway, you don't need any slack with locking tuners. Just point the hole parallel with the neck, thread the string through, pull as tight as you can, and tighten the nut on the tuner to a reasonable tightness - I hesitate to say "as tight as you can" in case you've got forearms like popeye, but you know, pretty tight.

But just so we're straight, the string snaps near the bridge, but leaves the ball intact with the string remaining tightly wound near the ball end? If that's actually the case, then it's possible there is a burr or something either on the saddle or in the entrance to the trem block. But unless you see something obvious, more than likely, it's down to the strings or your technique. Why don't you try a string from another manufacturer (Ernie Ball, for example)? A single string is only like a buck at most music shops, so it's worth a shot.

 

[greenwizard]

I still have not broken the e-string on my JP, and I've had it for four months after it travelled over the Atlantic AND I pick ridiculously hard (I'm working on it). I have broken some the low E A and D strings and for what it's worth this is how they broke. The ball was left intact with some wound string near it, then there is a small stretch of unwound string and the remainder of the string is fine. I didn't bother to try and retune the string because I knew it would snap. I don't think this is a problem and it saves the trouble of a string and flying through the air and hurting someone or scratching my finish.

The fact that one individual string keeps breaking suggests that either a) obviously that string is one of the weakest and most susceptible to breaking b) some player problem (like picking attack, bending or trem use) that the e-string you buy can't stand or C) there's some instrument problem. Regarding C: it's possible that there is some sharp edge that the e-string is resting on that is creating breakage. In other forums people have complained about this and some people have resorted to using small bits of string to round edges. Do a forum search. You might want to try one of the many lubricants other people have suggested.

And most importantly, I would like to issue a formal John Petrucci Owners Club (JPOC) guarantee:
"If you ever feel like throwing your EBMMJP off a cliff DON'T DO IT! Instead send it to me and I will take care of it free of charge. I'm even willing to trade you a custom-made paper airplane which will more satisfyingly fly when thrown off your cliff."
Signed,
Greenwizard

 

[HunterSThompson]

I still have not broken the e-string on my JP, and I've had it for four months after it travelled over the Atlantic AND I pick ridiculously hard (I'm working on it). I have broken some the low E A and D strings and for what it's worth this is how they broke. The ball was left intact with some wound string near it, then there is a small stretch of unwound string and the remainder of the string is fine. I didn't bother to try and retune the string because I knew it would snap. I don't think this is a problem and it saves the trouble of a string and flying through the air and hurting someone or scratching my finish.

The fact that one individual string keeps breaking suggests that either a) obviously that string is one of the weakest and most susceptible to breaking b) some player problem (like picking attack, bending or trem use) that the e-string you buy can't stand or C) there's some instrument problem. Regarding C: it's possible that there is some sharp edge that the e-string is resting on that is creating breakage. In other forums people have complained about this and some people have resorted to using small bits of string to round edges. Do a forum search. You might want to try one of the many lubricants other people have suggested.

And most importantly, I would like to issue a formal John Petrucci Owners Club (JPOC) guarantee:
"If you ever feel like throwing your EBMMJP off a cliff DON'T DO IT! Instead send it to me and I will take care of it free of charge. I'm even willing to trade you a custom-made paper airplane which will more satisfyingly fly when thrown off your cliff."
Signed,
Greenwizard

Greenwizard my friend...I went & quoted you to stop the echo effect that is on this thread ..Watch..."It's the ball end unwinding"..."It's the ball end unwinding" ..."It's the ball end unwinding" .."It's the ball end unwinding"..."It's the ball end unwinding" it's the Ricola effect.....To tell you the truth....I think it's something they did at Customs in Poland ...Sorry to hear about James Doohan ashes missing..I think that happened at Customs as well ....I saw that Daniel day movie.." In the name of the father"...not to offend..But if there's any copper or brass on the JP guitar..they might have taken it at customs to sell as scrap to buy a pint of Guiness ... Well ...I have a crock-pot of horned owl meat going..Spaeter

P.S :..........I'd pay good money to see him jump off..not throw the JP off..but jump off the cliffs of Dover...while playing..Why yes , "The Cliffs of Dover" ....I'll keep looking for it on YouTube

 

[greenwizard]

^^ The echo is especially baffling given the posters frequent statement: "the ball ends arent unwinding"!

 

[HunterSThompson]

Yep...and the echoe is deafening..Up here on the mountain

 

[Spudmurphy]

Ha I just gotta have a go here before I hit the hay.

If a string wont stay in tune its either:-

Unraveling at the ball end, ball end, ball end.

Slipping in the machine head - already someone has posted that you have to make sure that you have locked the machine head.

You have wound the string on the capstan and it needs no winding.

Snagging in the nut or bridge.

- now if you are snapping strings as well as it going out of tune (I know it's a bummer cos my LP gold Plated machine heads did it they were cra4p and had to go!!) then I would give my opinion (which after all is what you are after) and say that I would check the saddle. It's not mulder and skully territory and I don't think that your balls have the willies!
Failing that take it to a repair shop and get them to just have a look at it - if you were here in Cardiff I'd take you along to Cardiff Guitars and he would do it for nothing.

But please tell us all what the problem turned out to be.

 

[HunterSThompson]

This thing has been beaten like Britney Spears 5 year old??Wait the child is less then 2 you say..and not 5..I'm having visions of the future again....I say ..his guitar is strung with 10's but the E was a 9...and it was done by Colonel Mustard With the Candlestick .But we'll all find out it was an OLP JP6 strung with Vinci 11's from Wal-Mart in the morning...I love a good mystery

Hunter

 

[Spudmurphy]

I'm having visions of the future again...

Hunter

Psst whats the winning lottery numbers next week?

 

[jazzbo jim]

someone please padlock this badboy

 

[HunterSThompson]

someone please padlock this badboy

???????????????? What do you mean by that ????????

 

[Big Poppa]

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