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I believe he said he thought he got better tone with the pickup directly mounted into the body as opposed to being suspended by pickup rings. Doesn't the prototype he plays on the Score DVD have pickup rings? It's this one right?
2006_09-18_jp_proto_full-1.jpg


yes.
 

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I believe he said he thought he got better tone with the pickup directly mounted into the body as opposed to being suspended by pickup rings. Doesn't the prototype he plays on the Score DVD have pickup rings? It's this one right?
2006_09-18_jp_proto_full-1.jpg

JP6/20th Silo cross-pollenation. I like it without the bezels.
 

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yes, plus he likes to tuck his pinky finger in the bridge routing a little for wrist support.

That's true as well, but if I recall, in the initial prototype thread BP said JP had no issues with the pickup rings. Interestingly I just noticed those pickup rings are slightly different form any pickup ring I've ever seen. The top side of them uses two screws and the bottom part where you would plant your pinky is shaped differently and is affixed to the body with only one screw. Perhaps that was to accommodate JP's style of planting.
 

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Kind of off topic, but all of my guitars except one have pickup rings which I wrap my pinky around, so now with the two new JP's my finger keeps falling into the area that is routed out for the pickup screw. I've adjusted pretty fast but every now and then my pinky falls in and I'm completely surprised. It's like walking off a cliff.
 

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Kind of off topic, but all of my guitars except one have pickup rings which I wrap my pinky around, so now with the two new JP's my finger keeps falling into the area that is routed out for the pickup screw. I've adjusted pretty fast but every now and then my pinky falls in and I'm completely surprised. It's like walking off a cliff.

+1. Having the Luke helped that out for me.
 

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Interestingly I just noticed those pickup rings are slightly different form any pickup ring I've ever seen. The top side of them uses two screws and the bottom part where you would plant your pinky is shaped differently and is affixed to the body with only one screw. Perhaps that was to accommodate JP's style of planting.

Those are the same pickup bezels which are used on the 20th Silo, the 25th, and Bongos. The two screws on the upper side are there so you can adjust the angle of the pickup in relationship with the strings on the guitar.

Kind of off topic, but all of my guitars except one have pickup rings which I wrap my pinky around, so now with the two new JP's my finger keeps falling into the area that is routed out for the pickup screw. I've adjusted pretty fast but every now and then my pinky falls in and I'm completely surprised. It's like walking off a cliff.

Gotta learn how not to anchor that pinky ;)
 

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Gotta learn how not to anchor that pinky ;)

I actually didn't anchor for the first 10 years or so I played, and most of my instructors at Berklee were big proponents of not planting. But after I got injured and was forced to refine and redesign my technique I found myself anchoring.

I started planting because it felt like it offered my injured arm more support. It's interesting to notice how planting versus not planting affects how the forearm muscles and tendons are used, and even the shoulder muscles. I had all these things brought to my attention during physical therapy since it became so crucial for me to be aware of what muscles groups I was using, and how I was using them.

I actually ended up using 2 different planting techniques. I use what I guess is the more commonly seen approach, and the other that I subconsciously switch to for really fast stuff where I use the nail on my pinky as a pivot point.

Hope I didn't bore you to tears, I'm just fascinated by how so many people can have such different techniques and all get the same results.
 
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I actually didn't anchor for the first 10 years or so I played, and most of my instructors at Berklee were big proponents of not planting. But after I got injured and was forced to refine and redesign my technique I found myself anchoring.

I started planting because it felt like it offered my injured arm more support. It's interesting to notice how planting versus not planting affects how the forearm muscles and tendons are used, and even the shoulder muscles. I had all these things brought to my attention during physical therapy since it became so crucial for me to be aware of what muscles groups I was using, and how I was using them.

I actually ended up using 2 different planting techniques. I use what I guess is the more commonly seen approach, and the other that I subconsciously switch to for really fast stuff where I use the nail on my pinky as a pivot point.

Hope I didn't bore you to tears, I'm just fascinated by how so many people can have such different techniques and all get the same results.

I said that more as a joke than anything else. I plant my pinky flat on the top of the guitar, but mostly for *slow* stuff like arpeggiated chords and really fast stuff. I never had anyone to tell me different until recently.

Personally, I don't think it matters if you're getting the same results. Whatever is comfortable is best.
 

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This is the prototype used in Score (I was at the show and saw it live).
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It is a JP6 one off using the electronics of the 20th Silo and the then secret tone block which has become standard in the BFRs


This guitar is the final prototype BFR JP used during the recording of SC.
2006_09-18_jp_proto_full-2.jpg


The color, the neck binding and the pup rings were all deleted from the production BFR's because
1. JP thought the color was stodgy
2. The binding was a bitch to do according to BP
3. JP didn't want the rings
 
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