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You really would not believe what an arse this guy is being. I wonder if he is so cautious about everything in his everyday life. I'm surprised he make's it into work without having to look up the law on the best way to get yourself through a day!

Ebay has never been this difficult before. I think he's worried that if he gets his money I could turn around and say that he never hsipped the guitar to me. Paypal will then refund anyone there money who does this. I was pretty sure that if a parcel was sent registered post ie someone has to sign for it at the receiving end then there is no way Paypal is going to refund when there is proof that it was delievered!

Stressful day......... :mad:

Was is FEDEX ECOD anyway?
 

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Thanks for the info on this Ebay auction. I am in the market for an Axis myself & almost bid on that one. Only reason I didn't was that I wanted a darker color Axis. If he did not put in the auction US Shipping Only then you may have a case where he is obligated to complete the transaction.
 

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Knox said:
You really would not believe what an arse this guy is being. I wonder if he is so cautious about everything in his everyday life. I'm surprised he make's it into work without having to look up the law on the best way to get yourself through a day!

Ebay has never been this difficult before. I think he's worried that if he gets his money I could turn around and say that he never hsipped the guitar to me. Paypal will then refund anyone there money who does this. I was pretty sure that if a parcel was sent registered post ie someone has to sign for it at the receiving end then there is no way Paypal is going to refund when there is proof that it was delievered!

Was is FEDEX ECOD anyway?

Knox, here is the link for it. It works like this, he ships the Axis to a FedEx office near where your uncle lives. They hold it. When your uncle goes to pickup the guitar he pays FedEX and they give him the guitar. I think with the ECOD the money gets despoited electronically into the dudes bank account.

COD Type shipping:

http://www.fedex.com/us/services/options/ground/cod.html

ECOD Type shipping:

http://www.fedex.com/us/services/options/ground/ecod.html

Hope this helps, Glenn |B)
 

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Knox said:
You really would not believe what an arse this guy is being. I wonder if he is so cautious about everything in his everyday life. I'm surprised he make's it into work without having to look up the law on the best way to get yourself through a day!

No offense, but you are dead wrong on this one. He states in his auction that he ships to the continental U.S. only. He is not obligated to sell to you.

I, on the other hand, will ship to the UK. I don't have a trans-gold Axis, but I got some nice ones you can buy with no hassles. ;)
 

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ernie1966 said:
I, on the other hand, will ship to the UK. I don't have a trans-gold Axis, but I got some nice ones you can buy with no hassles. ;)

WELCOME, WELCOME TO ERNIE1966'S CLEARING HOUSE!!! Step right up and grab an Axis for one sweet deal. Making room for yet another JP. :D

Haha just busting you. Nice to see you are making good deals for people. ;)

Later, Glenn |B)
 

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WELCOME, WELCOME TO ERNIE1966'S CLEARING HOUSE!!! Step right up and grab an Axis for one sweet deal. Making room for yet another JP. :D


Later, Glenn |B)

You're absolutely right!!!! I need to make room for my JP's. My newest addition is a fully-loaded Graphite Pearl 6. Sorry to say it has to go back because of a tiny neck pocket crack. Boo Hoo!
 

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ernie1966 said:
No offense, but you are dead wrong on this one. He states in his auction that he ships to the continental U.S. only. He is not obligated to sell to you.

I, on the other hand, will ship to the UK. I don't have a trans-gold Axis, but I got some nice ones you can buy with no hassles. ;)


Ernie, I know it said US auction only. But when I hit buy it now the dude agreed to sell to me as long as shipped within the US to my uncle! Now he's decided he doesn't want to. Fair enough I guess but a wee bit annoying. We'll see what happens later when he gets back to me!
 

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Ernie, I know it said US auction only. But when I hit buy it now the dude agreed to sell to me as long as shipped within the US to my uncle! Now he's decided he doesn't want to. Fair enough I guess but a wee bit annoying. We'll see what happens later when he gets back to me!


If you had an agreement then I withdraw my last statement. He is being an arse! :)

Oh, don't forget, I ship to the UK. ;)
 

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Boy O Boy KNOX it seems to me that guy is being a real pain in the @#@ I mean YOU don’t email the guy BEFROE hand and ask if it would be ok if you bought the guitar and set up a plan for shipping to your uncle. (YOU did NOT do this) You just assume it’s ok and buy it. Then this guys auction is over and HE lost 32.00 and has to re-list the item and go through the hassle. (The seller would have told you no please don’t bid and you would have never gone through this all and wasted everyone’s time)

Here are the FACTS:
He stated he will only ship to US – this IS his right .
The agreement is between you and him, which does not include your uncle or anyother person.
You never asked anything before hand…. You just bought it and screwed up this guys auction. (I understand this seller has set up ebays settings to keep international buyers from bidding on future items)
The Seller at first considered all the options to in fact go ahead and ship to your uncle and took all day long reading PayPal’s and Ebays user agreements to work out a safe method of payment where He would be protected – (sounds like a looser to me taking all this time to email you 6 times and read all the options and try to work it out anyway)
Not to mention PayPal at this time has NO seller protection for US sellers and UK buyers so that right there keeps him from mailing it direct to you.
And again the EBAY AD STATED it does NOT allow any other form of payment except PayPal confirmed and Verified US address OR a US Postal Money Order.

You keep trying to change the terms over and over!
The terms were stated --- you either didn’t read them or you don’t understand them.
This IS NOT the SELLERS FAULT IT”S YOURS!!!!!
Did you ever notice the seller has ALWAYS said all along you could use a US postal money order.

Now I do know you are an honest person, your ebay rating is great, None of this was or is the problem! The Problem is YOU don’t qualify to make a Paypal payment because there is no protection between US sellers and UK buyers.
Your uncle (who is outstanding) is a 3rd party – never agreed to person you tried to invole without EVER asking the seller BEFORE hand. And yes at first the seller thought that maybe your uncle could use paypal, but then again because of the 3rd party issue and the fact this also was never discussed before hand and the fact things are getting crazy the seller chose only to take US money orders from that point on.

And Last you get ideas on this board (while semi-trashing the seller) to try and change the terms of the ebay ad for example ie-different forms of payments.

This person even after all this WAS willing to ship the guitar to your uncle anyway IF you used a US postal money order, but like I said you came on this board getting good advise but none which are the sellers terms. You should have told the seller “Sure my uncle will send you a postal money order” You’d have had the guitar sent to him and be done with it. But ……….

Right now I understand the seller has had ebay look into the unwelcome bidder rules and after they give advise the seller may or may not choose to do anything with you. THESE are the Sellers Rights!! I do however hope things work out for you and you end up with a nice Axis…There GREAT guitars!
 

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I have emails to prove all of this .... but I just wanted to set things like they are. I still have nothing against anyone ............... but I do need a manual to find my way to work .......LOL
 

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Ok guys...I understand that this thread did not start out like this, but this is not the place to straighten out ebay problems. I wish you all the best of luck on the transaction, but again, this isn't the place.

Thanks
 

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jongitarz - Thank you and I understand ...... I will not speak of this again, or anything like it in the future.
 

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I think everyone on here knows how excited I was to have bought my first AXIS after much consideration and looking for the right one if you;ve been following this thread!

I thought the seller would have like, most other US sellers been a reasonable guy!

It turns out that he has just had me suspended form EBAY today because he has filed an UNPAID ITEM DISPUTE.

This is very shocking to me as most of you know I was ready to pay for the item immediately either by Paypal or US MOney ORder as normally when you want an item you purchase it and then proceed to pay for it! At least I do anyhow!

The seller for some reason declined both and is now saying I didn't pay?

Can anyone work this one out because I think it most unfair especially as I am an honest genuine guy who has 100% positive feedback from Ebay since I registered 3 years ago. I have never had an experience like this before.

Its almost like the seller didn't want to be paid? If anyone has any advice as to what I can do to have my account reinstated please let me know.

I know most of you on this forum have been more than willing to help me out since I joined and your advice is always appreciated. Ernie and others have also been more than willing to ship to the UK.

Do I sound to anyone on here like the kind of guy who was or would consider ripping someone off and then coming on here to announce it? No.

Filing an unpaid item dispute is fair enough when someone actually hasn't paid for an item but when the seller doesn't allow you to pay for an item by any means or confirm his name and address as to where and how to send payment, then that is another thing altogether and it totally stinks as I know some of you on here have already told me!

What tuned out to be a thread of celebration has now ended like this for some reason.

I guess my search for an AXIS continues and thanks to Zigistar it looks like I can't use EBAY anymore. And I thought the USA/UK alliance was better than this..........
 
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I know how disappointed you must be Knox, but as Jon mentioned previously, this forum isn't really an Ebay fixit forum - and in truth, what could anyone else do? This is one of those no-win situations where you're just going to have to go through the channels to set it right - go to Ebay, plead your case, and everything will eventually sort itself out. No you won't get the Axis, but you should get your Ebay account back. Just take it as a learning experience and be sure to communicate clearly BEFORE bidding next time - 'cause the Devil is in the details, as you've discovered here. As for the US/UK alliance, you shouldn't paint every US citizen with a single brush. There are all kinds of people, and every country has its jerks. Don't let this one unfortunate incident prejudice your judgement of Americans as a whole.
 

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Jimi D said:
I know how disappointed you must be Knox, but as Jon mentioned previously, this forum isn't really an Ebay fixit forum - and in truth, what could anyone else do? This is one of those no-win situations where you're just going to have to go through the channels to set it right - go to Ebay, plead your case, and everything will eventually sort itself out. No you won't get the Axis, but you should get your Ebay account back. Just take it as a learning experience and be sure to communicate clearly BEFORE bidding next time - 'cause the Devil is in the details, as you've discovered here. As for the US/UK alliance, you shouldn't paint every US citizen with a single brush. There are all kinds of people, and every country has its jerks. Don't let this one unfortunate incident prejudice your judgement of Americans as a whole.

No absolutley not. You guys are my favorite people! I'd move to the US tomorrow if I could convince my wife that was a good idea! I love it there and you're all lovely people! I'm just trying to work it out with this guy but really haven't has a lot of luck as of yet. Its not about paying for it its the fact that I bid in the first place. I suppose I'm dumb as I didn't read the policy first. I thought I could bid and have it shipped to myuncle in the US ! I didn't realise being outside the US that I wasn't allowed to bid at all! I hold my hands up! Just hope the seller can see that too!
 

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I had a similar problem recently on eBay, I was trying to buy an iPod and won an auction that said the seller accepted Paypal. Turned out they didn't accept 'international' Paypal accounts though. So I tried alternatives, Bidpay, COD, etc... the seller refused. Expected me to just send a check, I refused that. So she reported me as non-paying to eBay. I simply explained the situation, and sent them copies of all correspondance between us, and eBay reinstated me, and removed the negative feedback the seller had left me.
 

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Thanks for the reassurance Blackspy! I know this guy is a member on here but you want to read some of his emails. Patronising to say the least and he obviously is a very angry person generally from the way he has treated me. Why refuse payment? And why get so angry when someone has clearly apologised and offered to make payment to the seller whatever way he is asked to? I've been in touch with Ebay UK and they have agreed in principal that it was a genuine mistake , that I thought the auction was open to international bidders but that the seller just would not ship internationally and that the seller agreed to sell to me but post to my uncle if I sent a US Postal Order but then changed his mind and reported me. The black and white stuff backing this up was sent today. May have sourced a used EVH as well so things are looking good again! Sorry to the Mods that this thread has tunred into this. Now would be a good time to lock it I think!
 

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jongitarz said:
Ok guys...I understand that this thread did not start out like this, but this is not the place to straighten out ebay problems. I wish you all the best of luck on the transaction, but again, this isn't the place.

Thanks


Just in case you didn't see it the first time. This is not the place. Sorry. Thread closed.
 
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