Life ~liberty~ and the persuit of QUILT!

[shredderbetter]

I really dig the natural,i don't play it much but it is a PERFECT quilt ,I like em' all but the colors usally get me the blue is really cool in person so are the painted ones the 07 and the burnt apple I love flake!!~I got the honeyburst off craigslist $800 with a new case,SUCKER!!he was some young kid I know it cost him or his parents more than that!STILLL no response from the HBPIC(head big poppa in charge?)AM I on the sh!t list??I'll have to pull the big guns out and post this one!

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa62/shredderbetter/ebaypic10105.jpg
like I know him??NICE GUY by the way!!My brother thought he was a truckdriver??No one else seemed to know who he was ,it's CROSSROADS for christ sakes don't any one play guitar?!?!?!He's practically ROYALTY!
jg

 

[whitestrat]

i can't believe other companies are getting $2000 for a white bolt on neck JEM guitars now i have one and in no way are they worth it!I preach to ANYONE I know that plays~ check out the EBMM line no matter what you play theres a guitar for you

There are plenty of people I meet here who still think that Fender and Gibsons are the ****, and Ibanez is the cutting edge...

I call them the uninitiated.

 

[robelinda2]

Excellent collection! You gotta get a regular Silhouette i think, not sure the AL will suit you.

 

[shredderbetter]

Rob~ are you just saying that so there's MORE AL'S in the market for you??I just bid on a '07LTD. but it don't have a trem so I'll have to back out~ great deal,if some one is looking??
JG

 

[petruccirocks02]

There are plenty of people I meet here who still think that Fender and Gibsons are the ****, and Ibanez is the cutting edge...

I call them the uninitiated.

Different strokes for different folks ya know? I love my EBMM, but at a while back I used to be one of the people that loved Ibanez. EBMM's aren't for everyone.

-Phil

 

[whitestrat]

Different strokes for different folks ya know? I love my EBMM, but at a while back I used to be one of the people that loved Ibanez. EBMM's aren't for everyone.

-Phil

I know that Phil... I used to be one too. Look at my siggy. I've played all sorts. I used to swear by my JEMs and JPMs back then. I love the JS series or rather the old Radius series. I now only have one Ibby left, but mainly because I cannot find any other brand that makes a guitar in these specs.

Then Fender came along and nicely distracted me with wood and single coils. From there, I realised what real quality was (or rather, the lack of), and developed a serious case of GAS for EBMMs... The rest is history...

 

[petruccirocks02]

I know that Phil... I used to be one too. Look at my siggy. I've played all sorts. I used to swear by my JEMs and JPMs back then. I love the JS series or rather the old Radius series. I now only have one Ibby left, but mainly because I cannot find any other brand that makes a guitar in these specs.

Then Fender came along and nicely distracted me with wood and single coils. From there, I realised what real quality was (or rather, the lack of), and developed a serious case of GAS for EBMMs... The rest is history...

-Phil

 

[shredderbetter]

Without selling EBMM short i use to be a huge~ IBENHAD~ type I still have lots of specials from my fav's including vai,satch,and reb beach but they are really quite cheezy compared to ebmm I've owned chromeboys and LTD's but NEVER seen any flame or birdseye on a guitar neck made form them??I trueully think ebmm puts more quality into the guitars from woods to electronics to setup and even cool color options!The wood options are still a question?!?!?!
JG

 

[Big Poppa]

Shredder

THiese topics get really get of hand when I participate in them. Thank you very much for your amazing support.

The search funtion will show you many examples of me trying to explain the situation....Many people already have so I thought that if the question was answered numerous times accurately
that I could sit it out.

Highly figured wood is really hard to consistantly get. If we give the option of selecting it then our production schedule bcomes impossible. We plan ahead for what we are going to make and if we allocate space and there isnt the right quality and figure out there in the wood market the factory grindws to a halt.

The razors edge we dance on is one of trying to give a custom made instrument at a price that is less than what the competition offers. We have to make certain calls that may not make sense but if we arent making instruments then we are losing money.

 

[shredderbetter]

I see I understand that,I was just getting different answers from different people,so~~~ if you were me BP(and if you'd like to trade for a day let me know)How would one go about getting a quilt top??,I don't mind waiting for a long time but since I already have a flame I really don't want or need 2 of the same,my salesperson was trying to contact the factory and see if there are/were quilts currently in production,I guess I'll wait it out?Unless you have other ideas?
JG

 

[beej]

How would one go about getting a quilt top??

Well I'm not BP ... but this is a problem with buying guitars sight unseen. Every piece of wood is going to be different, every guitar is going to look & feel a bit different.

If you want to know exactly what you're getting then you have to order from a dealer that has the item in stock. EBMM has tons of dealers- email CS and see if they can help you find your dream guitar in stock somewhere nearby. Then have a look and see if it's for you.

Otherwise, you're risking not falling in love with the guitar. Most of the time it's not a problem, but when you want a particular grain, wood pattern, etc. then it can be a big issue.

 

[shredderbetter]

I'm NOT disputing the wood itself there is clearly flame OR quilt ~I'm not going to try to state I want to pick the grain pattern I just ordered a quilt thru GC now several months later I get a flame delivered,which I already own,(very happy with btw)my position is I'm $900+(not paid in full until arrival) out of pocket and have NO answers as if I am entitled to the quilt,I'm more than happy to wait or i'll ask for a refund and look elswhere I'm not trying to BLAME anyone,i truelly do understand the whole subject it was just told to me at time of order a quilt is what you will get now, that's not the case,so I'm caught between a sales person i have used for YEARS~ a guitar I want ~ and the trees being growing/processed,I'll give it a few more months I think my best option is to keep ALL options open and first one that has one gets the order,Thanks all for chiming in on this question! I know it's not a purposly done production thing but it sure does cause headaches!?!I won't take a salesperson word for FACT again!

JG

 

[Aziah]

If you want to give me a call here at MM Customer Service, I can take a look to see if any dealers may have the guitar you want in stock so you can see what it looks like before purchasing it. That's going to be your best bet to ensure that you get a Quilt top.

(866) 823-2255 x106

 

[shredderbetter]

NOW that's SERVICE!!!

 

[Headstock]

There is an orange quilt Axis on the bay right now... kind of high in the price dept but... its allegedly got the "Custom Made" bridge plate / premium upgrade although you cant tell from the neckplate photos

Orange Axis

 

[Big Poppa]

I see I understand that,I was just getting different answers from different people,so~~~ if you were me BP(and if you'd like to trade for a day let me know)How would one go about getting a quilt top??,I don't mind waiting for a long time but since I already have a flame I really don't want or need 2 of the same,my salesperson was trying to contact the factory and see if there are/were quilts currently in production,I guess I'll wait it out?Unless you have other ideas?
JG

FIRST OFF PLEASE DONT PM ME AGAIN.....

We post pix of each and every guitar and its destination. Check the BFR pic thread. I would start there.

Thanks again

 

[whitestrat]

Highly figured wood is really hard to consistantly get. If we give the option of selecting it then our production schedule bcomes impossible. We plan ahead for what we are going to make and if we allocate space and there isnt the right quality and figure out there in the wood market the factory grindws to a halt.

To add to BP's point, I think if they really were to cherrypick their woods as much as we'd like them to, I doubt a Silo 20th would have cost less than $3,500USD. The time taken to produce 366 pieces would have been ridiculously long (which increases cost, stock holding, labour, opportunity cost and so on, so forth...), and we'd all complain of not being able to get our guitars on time.

At prices much lower than that, I bet there are a small few not-so-fancy tops in that 366 piece production. (I've personally seen one quilted 20th like that... which is why I didn't buy it.) But the ratio of the good ones against the not so good ones in this case is far more biased towards the good ones. There are bound to be a few misses. Even PRS has misses. They just don't tell.

But that's (the rising cost) not a situation we'd like either...

Then, we would be questioning ourselves on whether or not an EBMM would have been worth that much, and we'd focus more on the looks rather than what an amazing instrument it is to play.

The best option I think we have from EBMM with killer tops and choice woods at this point would have been the BFRs. and a factory posting EVERY picture of all the BFRs they've made and where they're going to so far is unheard of from anywhere else. (have you hear PRS or Gibson doing something like that?)

 

[shredderbetter]

I'm all over the quilt on e bay little pricey!I'll just go with my first choice and whoever gets the morse first gets the sale,I have to deal with GC to TRY and get my money back,if they can't supply a guitar I ordered?!?!?
thanks again all !!
JG

 

[beej]

Shredder-

If you're saying the salesperson lied to you, or if there was clearly a misunderstanding then I would take the issue up with the dealer (do you have anything in writing?). They're the ones in a position to fix this. But hopefully this thread has shed light on MM's position.

 

[shredderbetter]

I'm not saying anyone lied ~just as I was~" misinformed" about the flame/quilt issue I've used this salesperson for over 10 years so I totally trust her and feel bad to have to ask for a refund IF I can get the guitar somewhere else??She works for GC so they have a lot of pull in the industry,but if someone is selling one new OR used I'm buying the first available!

JG