MAJESTY Discussion page!

[mesavox]

We need to now be careful and not give it too much attention too though or the adjustments th hey make will still always be shrouded in that discussion.... That's one reason why that thread is locked...like the movie..."in da past" Lol

not trying to slam your comment our anything..it just occurred to me that the marketing team prolly would wasn't it to die out pretty quickly.

 

[ohdamnitsdevin]

I feel ya. It's just a guess though. I'm not sure when music mans quarters start but, I'm sure it'll be a main focus in Q1 of the new year and I figure it'll be a bit more expensive than the JP13 and all previous JPX models. It certainly looks expensive lol and I'm sure there are technologies in the guitar were still not aware of, that's going to cost. If it's more, it's more if it's less then, hooray. Buying regardless. Speaking of technology, if this thing had built in wifi and Bluetooth I'll be floored. How cool would it be to have your guitar connect wirelessly with your computer and be able to lay a track or two with very minimal setup. That's the world I want to live in.

 

[Big Poppa]

we have that with game changer...but will not release it yet....

couple of points to respond to....

Dev I dont give a rats ass what quarter Im in...I am not a publicly traded company...its my ass on the line every day regardless of quarter.....I try to run it for the long term.

On the premature unveiling...it goes pretty deep....there is JP and his schedule, the factory and gearing up with all the stuff we need to do...make fixtures do videos marketing material...show to buyers...but also the timing is important for the hundreds of dealers around the world that have inventory...it is a balancing act. Even though you have all known about it once we finally show a guitar it temporarily kills the sales of the other existing models...which affects production....which means that I finish a very tough year as it is with a sag. Making guitars in America is almost impossible....Im not whining just telling you how it is....all of us have challenges these days.

 

[TNT]

spoken like a "true" CEO!!!!! So much the public doesn't realize in the background!

 

[ohdamnitsdevin]

I just watched a really amazing, thought provoking documentary on Netflix called "Death by China" and I didn't realize how much of an impact everything going over seas has effected us as Americans until I watched this. I recommend everyone watch it. It makes me appreciate my American made products so much more. I truly understand the value of them and thank you for keeping things here in the USA.

I'm Sorry for assuming you would care about the quarter you're in. Every company I've worked for has always just crunched the numbers and always focused solely on the quarter they were in. This includes Apple where their image is all about the customer experience, etc. The reality however, is different. I'm glad to see it's not all just numbers for you and your company. Music man for life!

 

[BUC]

BP: Congrats on the new product. I find your candor refreshing.

 

[Big Poppa]

devin its numbers everyday....

on the price we now have made the prototypes now we have to engineer the costs and then figure out the retail....

 

[ohdamnitsdevin]

To me, Numbers are a tangible way of measuring success and opportunities. Nothing more, nothing less. But then again, this is coming from someone who's never had to manage a multi million dollar company.

I can't imagine the level of stress that must entail. Good thing you have those guitars to play and that meat to smoke to escape from reality from time to time.

 

[mesavox]

The bit about neck through or set neck versus bolt on left me wondering, and this is just a curiosity on how licensing figures into design decisions made, but would something like the Stevens Extended Cutaway design be cost effective to utilize, or would they even license that out beyond their normal clients anyway? If an artist really wanted to try that concept, is there any way to explore it without licensing the name, and just licensing usage of the patent?

That may get way too insider information type discussion to really answer, and I understand if its not something you feel comfortable getting into.

 

[Mick]

I've always been a fan of the "form follows function" principle. Only that way tools and everything else improve step by step. And in a time where other companies try to survive and try to please the market with minor changes in a 60 years old design the EBMM is one visionary company and this will pay off. The only way to succeed as a company with quality products.
It's easy to complain about product design when you sitting in front of your computer in dirty underwear eating chips and drinking beer (not me! Having breakfast it's 8 am - underwearwise....ok

GOOD JOB! Can't wait to get my hands on the majesty!

 

[ohdamnitsdevin]

Stephan's extended cutaway? What's that?

 

[Spudmurphy]

Having a discussion type thread, many viewpoints will come to the fore. Kudos to Knuckleheads in keeping discussion on track and not letting it slip into a bun fight- as it would tend to do on other forums.

To me the overarching message is "play it first" before you make your own mind up.

For example.
Was I initially turned on by the Albert Lee shape? No I wasn't - but once I played one I was hooked and still feel the same since I was first introduced to one in 2005.

When I was lucky to work the trade shows with Strings n Things - The Albert Lee bass received some remarks about this and that. Once I got them to strap one on and play it their attitudes changed.

The Bongo bass - again same kinda story but Bongo players are stoked by the playability of the instrument.

I could go on but notice the theme ?- EB MM push the limits, innovate and this continues with the new JP.
Long may it continue.I dread to think about the cost involved in R & D and EB have to be applauded for this level of investment in these austere times.
Some manufacturers still live on the coattails of early designs and at my ripe ol' age I'm fed up, and things have moved on. I speak with experience on the this having owned a G guitar and a F guitar for longer than a lot of knuckleheads have been born, and have seen and examined these guitars from the 50's 60's 70's etc at close quarters .I never use these guitars that are still in my posession but still appreciate their qualities.

If we had the same attitude with cars we'd all still be driving Model T's
- oh and BTW - I like it a lot. Can't wait to try one and if a guy who is close to pension age feels comfortable with this modern take then why shouldn't you young gunslingers?

 

[Systems]

I won't be trading in the XI or XII for this anytime soon. I'm interested to see the specs and I did notice in the picture with Steve it looked very light. Aesthetically I feel it is a huge let down after anticipating this guitar for 2+ years. I can only comment on the aesthetics, obviously. It actually reminds me a bit of when Parker's first came out (the Majesty has some similar visual aspects as a Parker to me too). I didn't like those, but they grew on me. I wouldn't ever buy one over a JP, but I feel differently about them now for sure.
It's just too much of a "Frankenstein" guitar for me. It looks like it was pieced together from multiple guitars and it's still a rough draft. I can't get on board with that carbon-fiber design at all. If it was one solid color, I'd feel a little differently. I see pieces (or influence; not "copying") of ESP, Ibanez, Parker, and Music Man in there. I feel like the JP was/is the JP and this is many different things mixed in WITH a JP. It has lost it's identity with this transformation. It's a big departure from the JP line for sure. One that I'm personally just not ready for.

I'm more than happy with the JP's I have. Though, wish I could've gotten in on that rosewood-neck run, lol.

 

[dav]

beautyfull guitar!!! i really like the design!!!

 

[ohdamnitsdevin]

I feel like the JP was/is the JP and this is many different things mixed in WITH a JP. It has lost it's identity with this transformation. It's a big departure from the JP line for sure. One that I'm personally just not ready for.

I'm more than happy with the JP's I have. Though, wish I could've gotten in on that rosewood-neck run, lol.

Well, let me ask you a question, are you the same person you were 14 years ago? Think about how much you've changed not only physically but, mentally as well. JPs career is writing music and playing guitar. Period the end. Whatever changes he made he made for a reason. Granted, the classic JP line has almost 0 resemblance to the Majesty but, it is a JP through and through. Id say that placing any judgments on it prior to having one in your hands is foolish. Don't sell yourself short. Try it. You'll like it. (Do you even see the joy on Steve's face just from holding it?)

 

[DrKev]

Remember, yes, it was designed with John Petrucci but it's a whole new design, not part of the existing JP family of guitars. It was never intended to look like those guitars. Try to think of it in that light.

And yes, it does remind people of many different guitars but so most guitars every made. Function does determine form, after all. It's pieces of wood and some string and there are only so many configurations of neck and body that will work!

I do promise you though, nobody will ever walk into a guitar store and confuse the Majesty for something else.
There is a new guitar on the market. It's daring and different and people looking for a non-traditional, high performance guitar have a whole new choice. That's only a good thing. Personally, while the Facebook keyboard warriors slamming this guitar seem OTT and juvenile, I'm kind of happy to see such a mix of strong negative and positive reactions. Just like the Armada, Music Man did not produce a boring guitar, and long may that continue.

With the Y2Ds, HH AL, LIII and JPX thru 13, Music Man took their own recipes further than ever before. We've had roasted maple and all-rosewood necks. We have the BFR tonewood cocktail. Compensated nuts. Now with the Majesty and Armada we have two back-angled headstock guitars a non-bolt-on designs and unique construction techniques. And then there is the Game Changer. WOW! We've also seen Cobalt strings and it won't be long before we see M-Steels too. Is this the most progressive guitar company in existence? Quite possibly, and I for one am thrilled to see it.

 

[joe web]

I've always been a fan of the "form follows function" principle. Only that way tools and everything else improve step by step. And in a time where other companies try to survive and try to please the market with minor changes in a 60 years old design the EBMM is one visionary company and this will pay off. The only way to succeed as a company with quality products.
It's easy to complain about product design when you sitting in front of your computer in dirty underwear eating chips and drinking beer (not me! Having breakfast it's 8 am - underwearwise....ok

GOOD JOB! Can't wait to get my hands on the majesty!

+1
just my thoughts!
the design is very unique and will take some time be familiar with, but at the end all that counts is the playability and the sound of the instrument.

the headstock design of the bongo would fit well with this guitar-shape i think, but the classic 4+2 is fine as well.

 

[Bungo]

while the Facebook keyboard warriors slamming this guitar seem OTT and juvenile, I'm kind of happy to see such a mix of strong negative and positive reactions. Just like the Armada, Music Man did not produce a boring guitar, and long may that continue.

The trouble with the internet is that it's full of idiots and children.... and idiotic children, many of whom think they have worthwhile opinions.

None of us would choose to stand in the middle of a school playground and pay serious attention to anything being said there. Reading the internet unfortunately is too often the equivalent of doing just this.

PS Nice guitar by the way. Which switch is the 'stop the rotation of the Earth' switch?

 

[Tanax]

Wow, there are some really strong opinions on John's Facebook page.
In any case, the guitar looks really cool! I haven't decided yet if I really like it or if it's not in my taste - it's one difficult guitar to analyze! But definitely cool. The design is truly radical as has been pointed out before the unveiling.

I think this guitar is a guitar you'll need to get used to! Can't wait until a local store gets it so I can hold it and test it and try it out for myself.

In any case, congratulations on creating this!

 

[Hind]

the headstock design of the bongo would fit well with this guitar-shape i think

+1