Majesty Noise

[falldb87]

Hello all, this is my first post so please be nice. Well, I have an awesome Majesty, but I've been noticing some extra unwanted noise since the day I got it in June. I should have returned it, but I had already waited about 3 months because the previous Majesty I had came with cracks, so I've just been sucking it up, but after discussing with another fellow Majesty owner, he mentions the noise isn't there for him.

The noise is some extra feedback when I suddenly stop a chord on the low E. I thought it was the springs, but I upgraded them to noiseless Springs and the noise is still there. I think it's an issue with the nut being perhaps cut too wide, but idk. The other Majesty owner I've discussed this with says it might be a piezo imbalance, but I'm not too sure. The noise can be fixed by putting a fretwrap on the nut, but I'm peculiar and I don't want to add anything because I feel for the price and quality, the noise should not be there.

Has anyone else had this issue with a Majesty? I can't seem to find anything about it online. I have contacted Sweetwater and I did shoot AJ an email, so I will see what they can do. If you all have any help, that'd be great thanks!

 

[Tollywood]

Welcome to the forum.

You are in great hands with both AJ and Sweetwater. I had an issue once and they both took excellent care of me. Good luck!

 

[agt]

With high gain only or with clean too? The Illuminator pickups are high output: with massive amounts of gain and/or compression, some noises/squeaks/squeals, such as amplified noises from fingers on strings, are bound to occur. If so, it may be a technique issue. Could that be what you are experiencing?

Something to consider. Do speak with AJ and Sweetwater -- online peer "support" is just a guess and not a substitute for the top notch awesome customer support you will receive from EBMM and Sweetwater.

Best wishes!

 

[BrickGlass]

I would have assumed it was the springs but you said you upgraded to the noiseless ones. Frustrating thing to deal with. Good luck to you.

 

[falldb87]

Hey thanks for the welcome guys and the responses. Yes, I'm aware of the hotness of the Illuminators. I have them in my JP15 as well, but I don't get this issue on the JP15. Could it be the woods of the majesty and the Illuminators? I thought maybe it could be a technique issue, but I tried several guitars and didn't experience the noise as loud as on the majesty. A good example is playing the riff of Symphony of Destruction by Megadeth, the verse riff, and every time I stop on the E, I get the noise. I play in a cover band and the feedback was unbearable when I used the majesty that I never used it again. Yes, I'm looking forward to Sweetwater and AJ, but who should I go through first. I should expect to hear back from SW tomorrow, and I've never dealt with AJ so not sure when I'd hear back. Anyway, thanks again guys!

 

[falldb87]

Not too much gain, but I hear the noise when I'm playing unplugged as well.

 

[DrKev]

There have been people in the past that have had weird noises coming their guitar when playing, a weird ringing when muting chords under high gain. Sounds like what you are describing. I'm trying to recall old threads here, some say the springs, some said the pickup mounting spring vibrating, it could also be a sympathetic resonance vibration behind the nut (which can happen even with a perfectly cut nut but is obvious even unplugged once you play hard enough), it could be a natural string harmonic excited by the position of your hand as you mute.

Use google to search the forum for old threads. Try to think of every possible way of describing the noise to help with your search terms and add site:ernieball.com to the end of your search terms to limits google's results to these forums. But these kind of noises are not specific to particular guitars but more to high gain payers with agggressive music styles, so try other forums too. Petrucci forums, gearpage, etc.

 

[MJM]

The noise can be fixed by putting a fretwrap on the nut, but I'm peculiar and I don't want to add anything because I feel for the price and quality, the noise should not be there.

It sounds like you are describing some string vibration between the nut and the tuners. It occurs on all of my guitars without floyd type locks at the nut. I put a hair tie over the headstock just to dampen the strings there and its gone. Try it... and its really not a bid deal... to me

 

[stringnoise]

Hello Falldb87,

Could you fix the problem? And in case you did, could you be so kind and share the way you did it?

I am experiencing the same problem as you.

Tanks a lot in advance

 

[mankindzoo]

There are different solutions for silencing springs but this is what I did on my BFR Koa and it worked perfectly:

Hello Falldb87,

Could you fix the problem? And in case you did, could you be so kind and share the way you did it?

I am experiencing the same problem as you.

Tanks a lot in advance

 

[stringnoise]

There are different solutions for silencing springs but this is what I did on my BFR Koa and it worked perfectly:

Hi Mankindzoo,

Thanks for the VT link, I gonna try it this way tomorrow!

Thanks again!

 

[PaoloGilberto]

I did that to all my guitars , after a while I removed that sponge from all of them, they seemed to cause less vibration and a "dead" sound overall compared...less sustain I think...

not again, thanks, I can accept that "spring ringing " )

Hi Mankindzoo,

Thanks for the VT link, I gonna try it this way tomorrow!

Thanks again!

 

[mankindzoo]

I did that to all my guitars , after a while I removed that sponge from all of them, they seemed to cause less vibration and a "dead" sound overall compared...less sustain I think...

not again, thanks, I can accept that "spring ringing " )

I did not notice any tone or sustain alteration. Did it happen over time for you?

 

[killerburst]

'When I stop a chord"... If you are muting the chord you could actually be causing the low E to contact a fret giving you a brief harmonic. The Majesty can be set up with very low action, and with such a short distance between the bottom of the string and the top of the fret it is very easy to do. If a fret wrap makes it go away, that is what makes me think muting technique is causing an unintended harmonic.

 

[JamieCrain]

Yes sounds like an action issue. Imperfections in fret levels are magnified at ultra low action heights. Also check the neck relief, it may need more relief.

 

[RJKANEAO]

When I first got mines i thought I had something happening too that led me to believe possibly something with my pups but as I got used to it and learned to tame per say those amazing pups then it all fell into place. They sound and feel very different from the liquefiers and crunchlabs but they have their own distinct aggressiveness. So I shied away from it while playing live shows for a couple weeks but as I used it daily in the studio I started to really feel out the guitar and those pups now they're my choice if I wanna go play a show and as they say "melt some faces!" By far I'm not a super shredder but I'll hold my own with the majesty! Hope u figure out ur issue.


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[Rick C]

I just got my Majesty today. It does not have low action from the factory. It plays well and is perfectly intonated and the bridge is flat. Sounds amazing but the standard string gauge is very heavy for me and compounded with the high action it is nowhere near as easy to play as my old Les Paul Custom.

Can someone please confirm what the factory action should be at the 12th fret top and bottom Es?

 

[Rick C]

Apologies, I meant to answer this thread original question too! I read this thread yesterday and one of the first things I did today was check for odd noise and feedback. I have not experienced anything abnormal sound-wise. Playing without being plugged in, I can hear a little spring reverb coming from the tremolo springs but that's all.

 

[luissk8]

Hello all, this is my first post so please be nice. Well, I have an awesome Majesty, but I've been noticing some extra unwanted noise since the day I got it in June. I should have returned it, but I had already waited about 3 months because the previous Majesty I had came with cracks, so I've just been sucking it up, but after discussing with another fellow Majesty owner, he mentions the noise isn't there for him.

The noise is some extra feedback when I suddenly stop a chord on the low E. I thought it was the springs, but I upgraded them to noiseless Springs and the noise is still there. I think it's an issue with the nut being perhaps cut too wide, but idk. The other Majesty owner I've discussed this with says it might be a piezo imbalance, but I'm not too sure. The noise can be fixed by putting a fretwrap on the nut, but I'm peculiar and I don't want to add anything because I feel for the price and quality, the noise should not be there.

Has anyone else had this issue with a Majesty? I can't seem to find anything about it online. I have contacted Sweetwater and I did shoot AJ an email, so I will see what they can do. If you all have any help, that'd be great thanks!

I have the same problem and I have found the solution. It seems that the space of the E string is slightly wider than normal, which means that when the string vibrates it finds a gap between both walls of the nut. I solve it temporarily by placing a bit of cotton under the E string and then tuning. I have not yet found a more effective solution.

 

[luissk8]

I have the same problem and I have found the solution. It seems that the space of the E string is slightly wider than normal, which means that when the string vibrates it finds a gap between both walls of the nut. I solve it temporarily by placing a bit of cotton under the E string and then tuning. I have not yet found a more effective solution.

providing more data on the problem. I have already discovered the fault: apparently the slot for string 6 is very deep, it can be repaired by placing a thin layer of resin or crazy glue and re-doing the slot to the correct size, there is definitely a risk that the tuning will not be as stable for that string but it is the least invasive and cheapest solution, the definitive solution would be to change the nut. If all those affected made videos and put them on youtube we might be able to get Ernie Ball to listen to us.