Question Majesty output jack, splitting signal?

[Kinjin]

The Majesty has a single output jack, which can be used with a stereo cable to split the magnetic and piezo signals to two different amps, correct? What would be the best way to do this? I'm looking at buying a Hosa YPP-117, does this sound like the right tool for the job, or should I look for something else?

Thanks!


Hosa YPP117 Stereo Breakout Y Cable
1/4 in TRS to Dual 1/4 in TSF
This cable is designed to split a stereo signal. Black- and red-coded mono phone jacks indicate left and right respectively. It may also be used to adapt a stereo cable with mono phone plugs to a stereo phone jack.

 

[Lou]

That will do the trick provided you have the jack set up in stereo mode.

You can also use a splitter box to handle the split as well.

 

[beej]

While that cable will work ... it's pretty short and would probably be in the way. (Not to mention, you'll have to run two mono cables from there to your amps.)

Easier would be to get one long TRS cable and split it closer to the amps. As Lou says, via a splitter box on your pedalboard, etc.

 

[Kinjin]

Thanks gents! Any suggestions/recommendations on a splitter box? I've got a pretty basic pedalboard (pedaltrain/voodoo ps) so any suggestions would be grand, or even other sites to do some more research on would be appreciated.

 

[Spudmurphy]

Rather than repeat myself here a link to one option.
I have also used an EB splitter box and made my own.

http://forums.ernieball.com/ernie-b...stereo-pan-pedal-all-options-listed-here.html

 

[Kinjin]

Rather than repeat myself here a link to one option.
I have also used an EB splitter box and made my own.

http://forums.ernieball.com/ernie-b...stereo-pan-pedal-all-options-listed-here.html

Thanks Spudmurphy, looking at your pictures your AL has two separate output jacks, whereas the Majesty only has one jack, so where you can run two cables from your guitar, I need a solution that lets me run one cable from the guitar, ideally into a box that would then split the magnetic out to one amp and the piezo out to another...

 

[Lou]

Pete can supply you with a splitter box
https://dubaldomusic.com/?post_type=product&s=Splitter

Or if you would prefer to switch with your feet you can get a stereo a/b/y from Startouch
startouchpedals ABY stereo pedal

I own a star touch and it's built like a tank. I also have an EBMM splitter box (no longer available). It depends how much switching I need to do. A lot of switching I use the startouch, otherwise I just use the splitter box.

You'll just need a stereo cable from the guitar to the box/pedal. Planet waves used to make a 10 foot y cable that I also use occasionally. I cannot find anyone making one of those currently.

 

[Spudmurphy]

Yes but I can also use a Stereo lead out of the AL - which is the same kind of thing.

The thread I posted takes you through your scenario at option 2.

The stereo lead out is my own preferred option and IMO is more rugged than a cable that splits into 2 (Y cable).

Pete can supply a splitter as Lou states, or you can knock one up yourself in 20 minutes - I have a thread on here showing you how to make one - but do you think I can find it !!!! Grrrrr

 

[Kinjin]

Pete can supply you with a splitter box
https://dubaldomusic.com/?post_type=product&s=Splitter

Or if you would prefer to switch with your feet you can get a stereo a/b/y from Startouch
startouchpedals ABY stereo pedal

I own a star touch and it's built like a tank. I also have an EBMM splitter box (no longer available). It depends how much switching I need to do. A lot of switching I use the startouch, otherwise I just use the splitter box.

You'll just need a stereo cable from the guitar to the box/pedal. Planet waves used to make a 10 foot y cable that I also use occasionally. I cannot find anyone making one of those currently.

That sounds like exactly what I'm looking for! Of course Pete Dubaldo would have exactly what I need, haha. It's like he's got a magical wardrobe that, instead of a portal to Narnia, opens up in SLO...

Thanks again everyone for the suggestions and quick responses!

 

[JamieCrain]

You are best to use a 10foot plus "Y" cable (splits right at the amp end), running the guitar in stereo, with the mag line to one amp, and the piezo line straight into the PA for the most crisp acoustic sound.

Alternatively, I sent the piezo line back through the FX return loop of my amp modeller, so I can blend the mags and piezo with some FX, but most importantly, I can leave the mag/piezo switch on both and change patches from heavy distortion to piezo clean without touching the guitar switches, just using my feet.

 

[PaoloGilberto]

Jamie , can you guide me on this? I have an AX8
thx

You are best to use a 10foot plus "Y" cable (splits right at the amp end), running the guitar in stereo, with the mag line to one amp, and the piezo line straight into the PA for the most crisp acoustic sound.

Alternatively, I sent the piezo line back through the FX return loop of my amp modeller, so I can blend the mags and piezo with some FX, but most importantly, I can leave the mag/piezo switch on both and change patches from heavy distortion to piezo clean without touching the guitar switches, just using my feet.

 

[PaoloGilberto]

I think I got it: using scenes right?

 

[JamieCrain]

I don't know about scenes, that sounds like a Fractal feature?

Here's what I do. I plug the stereo Y cable into the guitar, which is set to stereo output mode. I plug the mag pickup end of the Y cable directly into the guitar input of the modeller. I use a Line 6 but doesn't matter which one. I then plug the piezo end of the Y cable direct into the FX Return input on the modeller. Note, I do not use any other standalone FX pedals in the FX loop, just the piezo line straight in. Here's the cool bit. I program all my patches to either have 0% volume on the FX Return (for say heavy, distorted sounds), or a balanced % equal to the mag input for my clean patches which then means that both the mag and piezo signals go through the processor and can have other effects added later in the signal chain. On the Line 6, I can move the position of the FX return in the signal chain meaning that the piezo can be early in the chain (and go through the amp/effects) or have it last in the chain which is the same as running the piezo straight into the PA. The switch on the guitar is always set to output both, so the Mag/piezo mix is determined by the patch I select, not the guitar switch. It works brilliantly, and means I don't have to use my hands for switching sounds. Hope this is clear.

 

[PaoloGilberto]

Jamie, thank you very much for the help

I use indeed a fractal modeller , the AX8, the process is somehow similar but I am able to use the same preset for piezo clean, magnetic clean, magnetic sparkle clean, crunch, heavy rhythm , lead, etc up to 8 different tones in the same preset.
that is what Scenes modes is about , very cool feature.

what I did last night was panning 100 % L the piezo (fx loop) with a bit of reverb and having the magnetic panned 100 % right with chorus added and using that middle coil tap potion on the majesty
the sound is heaven ))

anyway thank for the info and enjoy it

 

[JamieCrain]

Always!

 

[mrmckinney]

I used the Hosa YPP-136 with a 10ft trs-trs cable so that the Y was at the Helix end and I just had 1 cable from the guitar to wrestle with.


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[mrmckinney]

Also, if you use a Helix and your not using both signal paths, you can set your signal path inputs to be guitar and aux (piezo), respectively. This way you can have completely separate fx, eq, etc for the acoustic sound and electric sound and can run then parallel or independently with the kick of a footswitch.


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