Well for those of us who can't afford a tube amp, or for those who can't play tube amps cranked, or even for those who don't know which tube amp to purchase or which effects, the tonelab is a very versatile weapon. I agree if someone has their tone set up, a simple tube and a wah, there;s no need. Funny thing is I used to be (well still am) an effects whore, but lately, and because of the tonelabs remarkable tone emulation, I find myself simply using the tones of the amps, their Gain or simple cleans. I've had the unit for about a month, and I think I have only played with one or two amps, I believe I'll still be finding tones for it on the day I passvexed73 said:I just sold a Tonelab SE I bought last sunday. I will agree it sounds good but I found myself just trying to emulate the setup I already had. I use a Carvin Bel Air with a Analogman modded Boss DD-6 in the loop and a bad horsie in front. The Bel Air has some mods done to it and it gets about every sound I need. The Tonelab just didnt get it for me all the way. I was hopeing it would have sounded better that I would have bought the Carvin TS100 stereo tube power amp. This amp has the option of having EL34 on one half and 6L6s on the other. I think that would really work well with modelers since I think there best sounds are in stereo. Oh well just some thoughts from one who doesnt know better.