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tm21

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for metal...what do you guys think? H&K has four channels plus its 100 watts....check youtube for some cool demos. Single Recto only has two channels and its 50 watts...all that is sort of irrelevant...what really matters is TONE TONE TONE. Which is better for metal?
 

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Recto wipes the floor with the Switchblade, IMO. Not to mention, Mesa has new ones this year! For the same price as the ones they've had for a while.
 

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seriously?? mesa wipes the floor with switchblade? i've never played either, but i can get the mesa for $800 and the switchblade for $1150. what should i do?

why do you say the mesa is better than the switchblade? only two channels and 50 watts....is the tone that much better? the switchblade also has built-in reverb, delay and tremolo.
 
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The thing about the Swithblade is it has that digital compression in its sound somewhere. You've probably done some research, so you know it's a hybrid tube/SS amp. I've played both and the Mesa just feels so rich and dynamic whereas the Switchblade felt "stale" for lack of a better word.

50 Watts on a Mesa is more than enough unless you're in a HUGE stadium or something, and even then it's more than ample. Don't get caught up in wattages, especially Mesas. The 5 watt option on the Express series is still hella loud.

If you want crazy versatility, however, the Switchblade is probably a better bet. Just because it has all those things packed into it.

Me, personally, having owned a Dual Rec Roadster, wouldn't hesitate on this choice and still go for the Mesa.

You really should try both, though, because opinions are a personal thing, obviously.
 

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Don't know much about the Switchblade. Personally, I think the Recto is a bit fizzy. I prefer a smoother tone, but that's just me. I prefer the F-Series and the Mark Series.
 

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Check out the new Rush album, Snakes and Arrows or a recent live DVD of Rush. Alex Lifeson uses the Switchblade and it is an amazing amp. The mesa is an amazing amp in its own right as well. It really depends on what you are looking for in tone. I would go with the H and K personally. They make some great stuff!
 

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how noisy is the H&K on the crunch and ultra settings?
 

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I had to double check the info on the Switchblade. It isn't a hybrid. It's all tube with digital effects. There's no solid state side of this amp. Just thought I would let you know that.
 

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I had to double check the info on the Switchblade. It isn't a hybrid. It's all tube with digital effects. There's no solid state side of this amp. Just thought I would let you know that.

+1 All tube amp as the man said.

My personal opinion is that the rectos just got one good channel and that is the channel 3 with modern voicing (and DAMN, it's good). I dont know bout the single recto cause I've just owned a dual and a triple. The clean channel is a bit stiff and "uncontrollable" and the orange crunch channel is to weak, even in modern mode. If you're looking for some liquid leads, the rectos are nothing for you. They're sound kind of fizzy and tooooo spongy :)D) to me even in the bold setting. I would say that the rectos lacks that real "fist-to-the-face"-attack.

On the other hand, the Switchblade. This one I have just tried a couple of times but the leads just sings like a baby and the gain is very tight. Thou the clean channel is very british it's not that stiff as a marshall clean. But don't expect it to be a fender shimmer out of it. The effects are top notch and sounds great.

That my sum of the cardamom (swedish saying :D)

I'm not saying I'm right in any way, it's just my opinion about these 2 amps.

(Sorry for my bad english. I blame the sweidhs winter darkness and a lack of sleep ;))
 

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Don't know much about the Switchblade. Personally, I think the Recto is a bit fizzy. I prefer a smoother tone, but that's just me. I prefer the F-Series and the Mark Series.

I agree with the Recto fizzy statement. I owned one and did not keep it very long, I prefer the Mark series over anything. But, I would take the HK over the single Recto, you are getting a more versatile amp for marginally more $$$. This from a LONG time Mesa guy! If you have the $$$, get a Mark V and solve ALL your troubles.
 

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I agree with the Recto fizzy statement. I owned one and did not keep it very long, I prefer the Mark series over anything. But, I would take the HK over the single Recto, you are getting a more versatile amp for marginally more $$$. This from a LONG time Mesa guy! If you have the $$$, get a Mark V and solve ALL your troubles.

+1 All tube amp as the man said.

My personal opinion is that the rectos just got one good channel and that is the channel 3 with modern voicing (and DAMN, it's good). I dont know bout the single recto cause I've just owned a dual and a triple. The clean channel is a bit stiff and "uncontrollable" and the orange crunch channel is to weak, even in modern mode. If you're looking for some liquid leads, the rectos are nothing for you. They're sound kind of fizzy and tooooo spongy :)D) to me even in the bold setting. I would say that the rectos lacks that real "fist-to-the-face"-attack.

Yeah. I think the name on the Single Recto kind of says it--not that that's what Single Rectifier means. It's pretty much a one-trick pony.
 

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I was leaning towards the switchblade as well. What cab should I run it through? I'm looking for a 1x12.
 

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I have a switchblade, its insanely loud so I have not used it very much as of late. Fwiw I have the 100 watt combo that I got off eBay for ~750 bucks so I would look to go the used route.
 

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To answer that question, I'd say look for something oversized. The bigger the box, the bigger the tone. Egnater makes great cabs that are less than 4 x 12, I think, because they follow that philosophy for those little cabs. I'm not talking about the outsourced Egnater 1 x 12s you find in GC with the outsourced Rebel, Renegade, and Tourmaster amps. I'm talking about the ones that you get from Egnater's modular series, which are built at the Egnater facilities in Michigan.

Egnater Amplification ? Amps/Cabs

A friend of mine has the Egnater Rebel 1 x 12 from GC, which is good for that amp. I'm not sure that it's going to be great for your application, but it's worth a try.
 

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It really is all tube? It just didn't feel that way when i tried one. I took a good 45 minutes to mess with it, too. Oh well.
 

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a tube screamer will smooth out the recto. now i go to that over the mark iv every time.
 
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