i own a mark iv and a music man jp6. the tones i get are great but i just went to the store and played an axis through a roadster. the tones i got were great so naturally i want those things. my question is, how do i go about getting all the tones i want? the cleans from either of those amps works for me. i have a love hate relaitonship with r2 on the mark and the roadster can probably cover that ground. r3 is amazing and my new love for the rectifier tone is driving me nuts. so is there any amp that i could get that will sound like r3 and then sell the mark iv for a roadster? should i just buy an old used single rec or something (or is the roadster tone better than regular recs)? ive been bouncing ideas around in my head involving dc-5s, tremoverbs, older marks. i need those 4 sounds (clean, kinda dirty, really dirty rectifier and concentraded mark iv lead)
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visualrocker69
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If you're only using it for the lead channel, a greenstripe Mark III should do the trick.
marantz1300
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i use a studio pre 50/50 pow . cleans great. dirty channel's goes from overdrive to nuts. if i want any more filth, i kick in the e.q. switch and if i need my ears to bleed,i step on a manic pedal. digitech grunge.
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GoKart_MoZart
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Sort of like, What is the Meaning of Life? That's a BIG question, that's the never ending quest!
petruccirocks02
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You can check out the Mesa DC series amps if you can find one. They are discontinued but pop up on ebay from time to time. They're supposed to be a mix of the Mark IV and Recto.
-Phil
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Know exactly what you mean... I love my Roadster... yet I still want that r3 tone from the Mark IV. Mesa needs to make a Markster, marktifier, or something... Mark King?
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visualrocker69
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Hmmm I have an idea.
Run a Studio pre through a Rectifier! It's kinda what Petrucci did with his Score rig... the green IIC+ preamp through a Recto power amp...
Run a Studio pre through a Rectifier! It's kinda what Petrucci did with his Score rig... the green IIC+ preamp through a Recto power amp...
John C
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At one point in the past I had a DC-3; it was pretty close to the clean channel of a Mark (I would say either a III or a IV) and the gain channel of a Recto. The DC-2 and DC-3 were the EL-84 amps (the DC-2 was 20 watts/2 EL-84s; the DC-2 was 35 watts/4 EL-84s) which took their sound in a bit of a different direction. I would suggest trying either the DC-5 (50 watts, 2 6L6s) or DC-10 (100 watts, 4 6L6s) if you are truly looking for the Mark clean/Recto gain combo.
koogie2k
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Triaxis.....
roburado
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The F-Series amps are very similar, I think. F-30 is pretty good. F-50 is even better. F-100 is great too.
roburado
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That was my original thought.
chrisglancy
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I can only speak for myself,
I absolutely love Mesa Amps and have used nothing but the Boogie for the last 8 years. I am using an amazing AXIS into a Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier with a Boogie 4X12 cab. with the right effects unit (reverbs , delay) I absolutely love the tone. I love the Mark series amps a lot too but I just love the grit and sizzle you get from the Rectifier especially in a live mix.
Its all taste of course but I never rreally saw the appeal of the Road King, I simply think the Dual Rectifier covers all the bases for heavy Rock unless you are a tone maniac!.
the new 5:50 head is the next mesa I want to buy
I will load up some cool gig footage soon with the AXIS and my Recto.
let us know what you end up with!
I absolutely love Mesa Amps and have used nothing but the Boogie for the last 8 years. I am using an amazing AXIS into a Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier with a Boogie 4X12 cab. with the right effects unit (reverbs , delay) I absolutely love the tone. I love the Mark series amps a lot too but I just love the grit and sizzle you get from the Rectifier especially in a live mix.
Its all taste of course but I never rreally saw the appeal of the Road King, I simply think the Dual Rectifier covers all the bases for heavy Rock unless you are a tone maniac!.
the new 5:50 head is the next mesa I want to buy
I will load up some cool gig footage soon with the AXIS and my Recto.
let us know what you end up with!
thanks for all the input guys. im leaning toward just picking up a cheaper used recto of some sort. id really like a tremoverb but they seem expensive and hard to find (especially as a head). maybe a single rec will fill my need, hopefully i can at least afford that
John C
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The F-Series was kind of a stripped-down version of the DC series; the key thing the DCs had over the Fs was the master output control like the Mark IV. Also, except for the DC-2 they had the Boogie graphic equalizer for more options instead of a pre-set "contour" control.
I think technically the Nomad series was Mesa's attempt to make the 2-channel DC series into a 3-channel amp. They also had the Subway Rocket/Rocket 44 as "lower cost/less features" models back then since they didn't have the graphic eq, had shared tone controls, and had a pre-set contour. To me the F-Series was Mesa trying to get back to what they had with the DC series - a lower-cost amp with two fully independent channels, but they had to make some concessions to keep the cost down like dropping the overall master output and using the pre-set contour like the Subways.
You nailed it right, John!
I have a Studio Caliber sans the Graphic EQ. I would have gone for a "DC-2 Studio Caliber" with at least a contour mode. But you know, Mesa are rare in where I stay, and getting one with a 240v power version is harder. So I am settled with a DC-2. But its ok, I can always stuff a EQ pedal into the loop!
Spudmurphy
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+1 on the F50 - fabulous amp!!!
