MM Bass EQ Question

[Psychicpet]

cool that it worked out for ya. in future though, if you get a chance you should try out a Millenia Media TD-1 DI. It has 2 bands of fully parametric eq. Graphic eq is nice and 31 bands of it is alot to choose from but 2 bands of fully parametric eq is very useful and almost more powerful to some extent.
but ya, good to hear your mod was a success.

 

[brconflict]

Yeah

Millennia makes some really cool gear. In fact, they make one of the most underrated studio EQs by Bob Katz' standards (know who he is?). The TD1: Did you see the Freq response of that sucker (3Hz-300Hz! at -3db? If they ever said this was for the birds, they were RIGHT, because birds could also master their songs on this!).

Anyway, if I had MY way, I'd mount my Drawmer 1961 tube EQ into my rig! Gonna use it to record with probably, though. But, what I have will do fine for now.

 

[Psychicpet]

Not familiar with Mr.Katz but I'll do some looking and yes, the Mil-Media stuff is crazy.
a drawmer for the live rig.... ya... an Origin STT would be a great front end too hehehe
awesome

 

[Aussie Mark]

I will tell you that the SWR is the harshest tweeter in the bassworld.

BP is correct. I love SWR cabs, but IMO a tweeter has no place in any bass cabinet. I dial my tweeters down to zero.

 

[Figjam]

My tweeter is barely on. Barely.

 

[TSanders]

You guys should hear the tweeters in the Bergantino cabs. SSSMMMOOOOOOOTTTTTTHHHHH.

 

[brconflict]

SWR Tweeter

I'm with you all. I have an SWR Big Bertha, a Goliath III, and a Goliath III Junior. All off them have the tweeter turned waaaay down. I had an e-mail conversation with David Eden once about his work (when he worked for SWR). He mentioned that he spent considerable time designing his speakers to sound better than SWR, especially the tweeters. However, he still believes that the SWR 10" P.A.S. speakers are some of the best he's spec'd out for SWR.
I would like to start using David Eden cabs, but through Fender I can get a huge discount for SWR gear (Fender owns SWR now).

 

[strummer]

I would like to start using David Eden cabs, but through Fender I can get a huge discount for SWR gear (Fender owns SWR now).

Not that I am too fond of eden cabs myself, but I think you should get yourself the cabs you find works best. After all, you stated that you are particular about your sound, AND you play EBMM as well as that german 2x4" because you like them. So why play SWR beacuse you can get them cheap?

 

[brconflict]

German? I don't own any German basses. I sold one because I didn't like it (the Warwick). As for the cabs I play through, maybe I left out something. I've tried many different cabinets and several different amps. So far, I like the SWR and Eden rigs best. I will own Eden later, but I've already spent a great deal of money with SWR. I didn't care much for Genz-Benz, Ampeg (yes, even the famous 8x10" because it sounded muddy to me), Fender, EBS, Bag End (although those weren't bad), and I absolutely loathe Hartke's aluminum. Now I will admit I can't find an Ashdown, Aguilar, Carvin and some other rigs. I did mess around with Norwood Fisher's Warwick rig when he was in town on tour, and it sounds quite nice. I like the SWR rigs, but I'm with everyone else in that I don't care much for the tweeter. I just think back years ago when all I owned was a Crate BX-160 and a home-made external cab. You sort of grow into larger rigs, and yes, you are correct in that I should find the exact cabs that meet my expectations. Just in SWR alone I went through a Red-head combo, Big Ben, Son of Bertha, Big Bertha, only to settle on the one I should have tried first, the Goliath III 4-ohm (ugh). hehe

 

[tkarter]

You have developed your tastes in EQ for sure.

tk

 

[Golem]

I can't imagine maxing the mid on any EB bass. Doing that is where all the clicky is coming from. If you really feel you need the mids boosted that much you would be better off doing that on the nice pre that you have. To be honest, I amnot sure if any forum member has the knowledge you are really seeking about modifying the preamp.

I max out mids all the time. I play flatwounds, so maybe the sum total of your comment and mine tells us that flats are the equal of a big mid-scoop on an EB bass? The only bass I enjoy with RW is a Bongo [HH4] and I can't imagine maxing the mids on that !!! At least not the upper mids. I often max the lower mids.

So, with RWs on the Bongo, I agree with you. With flats on my other MMs, I often max the mids. Sounds like RWs are, in themselves, the equivalent of a major midrange boost [compared to flats].

 

[Golem]

Disclaimer: I should have mentioned up front that I'm VERY particular about my sound. I like to have a character that's easily recognizable when we play live. Why did I buy a StingRay and mod it when I could have bought something else? Well, I'm VERY particular about how a bass plays as well. ..........
..........This things is worth more to me now than it was when I bought it. If Geddy Lee would not let Fender take his bass apart and find out why it sounds so great (to build his signature bass), he retains a one-of-a-kind, and nobody can be him! So, now I do, too! .......

The combination of your insistent and persistent pursuit of **Exactly** your tone, and the knowledge and skills you bring to bear are to me the warning cues of an Exteme Tweaker. Well you have opened my eyes ....

At first, I thought creepy things about you, but I read on and kepp my mouf tite shut, knowing that I might learn something. In the end, I find myself very wrong about my creepy thinking. Even if you might be an Extreme Tweaker, I really do like your atitiude and the the way you think.

 

[brconflict]

creepy

Honestly, sometimes I think creepy things about myself as well, like: What if I'm being an Obsessive-Compulsive type? But in truth, I didn't know this but there's others out there that do similar acts. the most extreme I've seen was from the bassist of Type-O-Negative, who would buy a brand new Alembic bass, take it home, strip the finish off and immediately spray it to match the colors of the band (Green and black). Surely I'm not that bad, but I've learned this ideology from my guitarist who obsesses about his tone. With him and his Strats, we've wired several different pickups, wiring changes, amp setups, modding pedals, etc. but only to find that plugging the Strat into the Twin and blasting away has the purest tones he's heard (his issue was when adding all the effects). In my case, I was playing the bass I liked, but in the show, I would be buried under the guitars---couldn't cut through at all. So, like him, I had to try a few things. We believe you can have your cake and eat it, too!

Into the music store last week, and I saw a single HH model. Never had seen one before. A Neck pickup! what a novel idea! I plugged it in and immediately liked the versatility. Hmm, the EQ controls weren't all that, still. So, my warped sense of thinking was that I would forego the warranty, and do what my friend does when he buys something new. Make it my own. So now, a week later, I have nothing but good things to say about this bass, and I'm not looking back.

So, yes, I'm creepy, if you count the fact that I spent Friday night and Saturday night roaming bookstores and my closet for the electronics books I had forgotten about just to make a mod. Worse, I traced out a schematic, learned more about the TL062 Op-AMP, bought a small wad of metal-film resistors (1% tolerance) and similar capacitors, theorized somewhat as to the right components to change-out, and off I went. One resistor I couldn't get the resistance correct, so I wired a pot in to trial it!

Anyway, rambling on.....thanks for the compliments!!

 

[smallequestrian]

I max out mids all the time. I play flatwounds, so maybe the sum total of your comment and mine tells us that flats are the equal of a big mid-scoop on an EB bass? The only bass I enjoy with RW is a Bongo [HH4] and I can't imagine maxing the mids on that !!! At least not the upper mids. I often max the lower mids.

So, with RWs on the Bongo, I agree with you. With flats on my other MMs, I often max the mids. Sounds like RWs are, in themselves, the equivalent of a major midrange boost [compared to flats].

Totally with you there. The main reason I feel that you can't max the mids with rounds is it just amplifys all the fret and finger noise. With flats there is hardly any noise to amplify to begin with, so maxing the mids isn't that big of a deal.