MM Silhouette

[PRCpower]

First of all. Hi guys,
this is my first post on this forum, and I just bought a mm silhouette. A hell of a guitar,) And I was wondering, does the BRIDGE has to lay down on the body of the guitar or could i raise the action with the studs so that the tremolo can float, so i could not only do dive bombs but also to stretch the strings backwards?

 

[JeffreyB]

Hey there, and welcome to the forum....to answer your question..."yes"...but that might not be the best way to do it...
The best thing to do would be to contact customer service....you'll find that they are extremely helpful and actually very friendly!

Last, but not least...we don't believe you unless you show us pics!

 

[wolfbone07]

Yeah, the bridge can float. The bridge on the LUKE sets up just fine floating from the factory. I believe that the bridge on the Silhouette is quite similar.

 

[JeffreyB]

Yeah, rather than raising the bridge studs, start by loosening the screws a little (very small amount) that hold the "claw" that the trem springs are attached to. each time you loosen, check the tuning and make sure it's tuned to standard....keep playing around with that until the bridge lifts off of the body a bit. Again, I will direct you to customer service....but i did this with one of my axis guitars and the results are very good. Keep in mind that the guitar becomes a different animal with a floating bridge...any pressure from your picking hand (if you rest it on the bridge) will cause your guitar to go sharp...also bending strings can pull the entire bridge down a bit....like I said, playing with a floating bridge takes a different touch.

 

[pjc812]

+1 on the Luke set up. Only has two springs from the factory and flutters quite nicely. I really dig the Luke, I need one. *sigh*

 

[lock-ny]

Dont touch the studs, simple remove a spring and or loosen the claw etc...

 

[Colin]

welcome to the greatest forum in the world... watch out for Fogman though

 

[PRCpower]

Thank you guys.
I will contact the customer service but, as I understand it can be set as a float and to lay down on the body sitting down and being able to only dive bomb?
But what are the advantages of both? As I understood if the bridge sits down on the body you have no fear of pressing it down with your picking hand and thats it?
And for those who talked of the bridge angle its not the problem but the action is because i have large fingers and I like action to be a little higher so I can bend easily.

 

[PRCpower]

I bought the guitar used so I dismantled it and just finished putting it together, and played it for a while and realized that the bridge cant go backward cause the body,the wood is in the way lol So the question is how do you setup your guitars. Does your bridge lays flat on the body or do you raise the bridge?

 

[pjc812]

Where are you located man? If you're in my area bring it by and I'll fix you up.

 

[Spudmurphy]

Thank you guys.
I will contact the customer service but, as I understand it can be set as a float and to lay down on the body sitting down and being able to only dive bomb?
But what are the advantages of both? As I understood if the bridge sits down on the body you have no fear of pressing it down with your picking hand and thats it?
And for those who talked of the bridge angle its not the problem but the action is because i have large fingers and I like action to be a little higher so I can bend easily.

The guys have given you sound advice - either remove a spring or just do small adjustments by screwing out (unscrewing) the screws holding in the claw.

You will be able to set if hard against the body by adding a spring or screwing the claw right in towards the body thereby increasing the tension on the springs.
This way you will only be able to dive bomb only.

By setting the bridge floating ( a la Jeff Beck) you will be able to bomb and pull up slightly.

If you follow the advice given here and by the other guys you won't have to bother Customer service - save that for a time when (if) you really need them - cos they are busy!!

 

[leftyguitarblue]

Welcome to the forums!! great place to learn and have some fun.

 

[Jodizzle]

welcome to the greatest forum in the world... watch out for Fogman though

That's what she said ..


WELCOME!!!! insert pics here

 

[PRCpower]

Thanx guys. Sorry i don't have pictures and im from Hrvatska(Croatia). I bought the guitar used. I contacted Dan at the customer service as JeffreyB said and maybe you can explain me some things.
-First of all i wanted to know how do guitars get set up at the factory. That is when you look at the bridge from one side does it sit flat on the body touching it or is there a gap lets say you could put a credit card betven the body and trem or there is bigger gap?
-Dan was great but you could explain me some things.
He said:
"The standard float height is measured at 1 1/2 steps on the G-string. If you set this first at 440 tuning, it may make it easier to keep the bridge close to the same angle while making all of the other adjustments. You may want a different amount of float - many players prefer 1/2 or only 1 step of float. "

What does that mean can you explain that? Does that mean when you pull the tremolo back you change the pitch of G string open to A sharp or what?

 

[mbgreene]

-Dan was great but you could explain me some things.
He said:
"The standard float height is measured at 1 1/2 steps on the G-string. If you set this first at 440 tuning, it may make it easier to keep the bridge close to the same angle while making all of the other adjustments. You may want a different amount of float - many players prefer 1/2 or only 1 step of float. "

What does that mean can you explain that? Does that mean when you pull the tremolo back you change the pitch of G string open to A sharp or what?

Yes, that's what it means. A Silo with a trem is set at the factory with the bridge flat on the body to do dive only. The Luke, which has a similar bridge, is set up at the factory so that when pulling back on the trem the open G will raise to A# when the bridge meets the body flat. So that will determine the angle that the bridge is off the body to float per factory specs.

 

[roburado]

-First of all i wanted to know how do guitars get set up at the factory. That is when you look at the bridge from one side does it sit flat on the body touching it or is there a gap lets say you could put a credit card betven the body and trem or there is bigger gap?
-Dan was great but you could explain me some things.
He said:
"The standard float height is measured at 1 1/2 steps on the G-string. If you set this first at 440 tuning, it may make it easier to keep the bridge close to the same angle while making all of the other adjustments. You may want a different amount of float - many players prefer 1/2 or only 1 step of float. "

What does that mean can you explain that? Does that mean when you pull the tremolo back you change the pitch of G string open to A sharp or what?

Okay. The factory set up of the EBMM vintage tremolo is like this. The space between the back of the bridge and the body of the guitar is only enough to hold a piece of paper.

The Luke is set up to float so that when you pick the open G string and pull on the tremolo arm to raise the pitch, the note will be A sharp when the tremolo is pulled back all the way. That's correct. The Silhouette is not set up by the factory to float.

 

[PRCpower]

Yes, that's what it means. A Silo with a trem is set at the factory with the bridge flat on the body to do dive only. The Luke, which has a similar bridge, is set up at the factory so that when pulling back on the trem the open G will raise to A# when the bridge meets the body flat. So that will determine the angle that the bridge is off the body to float per factory specs.

Great man thats it.

 

[PRCpower]

Okay. The factory set up of the EBMM vintage tremolo is like this. The space between the back of the bridge and the body of the guitar is only enough to hold a piece of paper.

The Luke is set up to float so that when you pick the open G string and pull on the tremolo arm to raise the pitch, the note will be A sharp when the tremolo is pulled back all the way. That's correct. The Silhouette is not set up by the factory to float.

Thank you, finally. That is what i wanted to know, a piece of paper.
I raised the bridge so you could place two credit cards between the body and trem, Is it ok? Can i leave it that way.

 

[PRCpower]

Guys i think i did a good setup. The guitar plays like a dream Its the best guitar i ever had. The tone is so stable and the pickups are not bad at all, and i was suprised by the sustain it has a great sustain although it has a trem and all, its great. I would prefer fixed bridge but the guitar stays in tune and the bridge gives me no problems

 

[roburado]

Thank you, finally. That is what i wanted to know, a piece of paper.
I raised the bridge so you could place two credit cards between the body and trem, Is it ok? Can i leave it that way.

If you like it that way, you can leave it that way. I like it the way the factory does it. So, I do it that way.