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Danserrano

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Just my opinion but....

I Couldn't agree more. Up until I bought my 25th (with same truss adj placement) my main guitar was the jp. Had I not bought it bc of the Placement it out of been a huge mistake. It felt right but mainly sounded perfect for that tone I had in my head. So I pulled the trigger and it was absolutely perfection. And u have no idea how great it's been to make a quick little Allen key adjustment to have that perfect action in seconds. The great thing is that eb has tons of models so if it's not a jp I'm sure there's one out there for u and if not no offense but I don't think Bp or the rest at eb will lose sleep. All I know is that I'll b nice and cozy w my eb next to me lol.

Good luck in ur search for ur dream guitar :)
 

Whammy_Abuser

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Is it that the neck pickup tone doesn't work for you or is your hangup over the location of the pickup independent of tone? A wise man facilitated my tone quest when he told me to hear with my ears, not with my eyes.

When I plugged in JPs yesterday (2 JP6s and a JPX) the neck pickups just sounded dry, weak and bright to me. It could just be a sort of placebo because I know the gap is there, but when I plugged in an Axis I could immidiatley and dramatically hear the difference...

I think 24 fret guitars just aren't for me...
 
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Big Poppa

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I think that you should leave it at that it isnt for you criticizing the tone will get ugly....Fair enough you dont like them...no problem but it start to be dead horse beating on this
 

Slingy

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Funny, just today I was thinking Id like to learn to play the melody for Petrucci's Glassgow Kiss, but none of my guitars have 24 frets.
 

Whammy_Abuser

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I think that you should leave it at that it isnt for you criticizing the tone will get ugly....Fair enough you dont like them...no problem but it start to be dead horse beating on this

I can see how that would come across as criticism, but I truly didn't mean it in that way at all.
Some people don't like Floyds because they "thin" the tone out, some people don't like how single coils sound, some people don't like the tone of mahogany/basswood/alder/whatever...I just don't like the tone of 24 fret neck pickups.

Doesn't mean they're bad, hell, if I could make them sound like Petrucci makes them sound I'd own 3!
 

Raz

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I'm gonna chime in. The only other guitar (brand) I would ever consider purchasing, would be a Peavey, most likely a Wolfgang, not only are they sweet, and relatively inexpensive, but for the Truss Rod Adjustment Wheel, which I consider the most innovative thing on a guitar these days (except for what EBMM has been doing lately). On the Fly action adjustment, who doesn't want that? So accessible, and EASY! Now I have a Wayne Custom 7, hand built by Wayne Charvel, that listed for over $3000.00. Do you know how I have to adjust the truss rod on that thing? I have to take the neck off. Is it a nice guitar, yes, would I buy another , NO! Would I buy another EBMM, Hell Ya!
Funny thing is, look at Eddies new line of EVH's he must love the TRA Wheel!
 

shredhed

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Think about it.....if the TR adjustment isn't there, then it has to be either at the head like a Fender (and requires an allen wrench) or at the heel like an old Kramer that you would have to remove the neck. I don't know anyone who likes to do that
 

Eilif

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Whammy,

Let me tell you a story.

I like 22-fret-neck guitars. When the 20th Anniversary Silhouette was released, I drooled...but I hesitated because it's a 24-fret guitar. I thought about it, and I thought about, but I just couldn't get past it having 24 frets instead of 22. So the ordering window came and went, and I ended up not ordering one.

Then one day I stopped by my local guitar shop. Lo and behold! They had a 20th Anniversary Silhouette, so I checked it out; I was especially curious because people were raving about how they sounded. I plugged in, messed around, and immediately fell in love with the bridge pickup. After five minutes, I knew I had to get one. The one at the store had a trem, but I wanted a fixed bridge, so I checked online and found one at Grand Central Music in Duluth. I lucked out! It was exactly the configuration I wanted, so I bought it.

Long story short, I hardly play my Axis SS anymore, which, of course, is a 22-fret guitar. I don't miss the placement of the neck pickup that much closer to the neck. I'm happy with the neck pickup on the Silhouette being where it is.

The moral of this story is that if you want a JPX--or any other EBMM--don't let the truss rod stop you. Because in the end, it may not matter, not one whit.

Give it a try!


I'm talking about the adjustment wheel in between the neck pickup and the fretboard.

I understand the idea behind it, easy access to adjustment and all. But on guitars like Sillhouettes and Petruccis it pushes the neck pickup towoards the bridge, and considering they have 24 frets, they're already being pushed towoards the bridge.

This has turned me off from getting several different, most recently a JPX.
I think they look AMAZING and they play like a dream. I just can't get past it, so instead I am looking at the older, Ibanez JPMs.

I know it's small, but I'm kinda crazy about that kind of thing :D
Am I alone in this? I just feel like they could figure out a new place to put it that would give us the best of both worlds...
 

Bluplirst

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Its pretty much apples and oranges comparing a JP with an Axis. Two great designs for 2 completely different tones.
 
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