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bovinehost
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Boris, as nearly as I can tell, you're good. You're fine. The hostility (perceived or real) is from people thinking they have some type of territory to protect.
Mostly, this is a mistaken idea (BP may be the most obvious exception). Your case improvement idea is perfectly okay, and is clearly being explored.
Don't let others make you defensive. The way I see it, you have no reason to be.
We cool?
Jack
Boris, no hard feelings. I think Jack is right by saying that people feel they have a territory that needs protecting. I love keyboard warriors... 
My suggestion for an upgrade: lipstick mirror!
What I think everyone is missing the point on is that we *are* always looking at ways to improve that which we already have. I have never heard the phrase "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" coming out any of our engineers' mouths and I hope I never do. The best things in the world were made because people asked questions about what could make it better. That said, the lipstick mirror should be at least 4" x 3", to allow for quick hair fixes too.
My suggestion for an upgrade: lipstick mirror!
What I think everyone is missing the point on is that we *are* always looking at ways to improve that which we already have. I have never heard the phrase "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" coming out any of our engineers' mouths and I hope I never do. The best things in the world were made because people asked questions about what could make it better. That said, the lipstick mirror should be at least 4" x 3", to allow for quick hair fixes too.
carpedebass
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All I can say is that I have owned really good, durable stuff in my life. Seems like every time a company starts jacking (no pun intended, B-host) around with it, they seem to be much fancier, but not as good in terms of quality.
mynan
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Please don't take any of these reactions as hostility. We have all (at least I have), in the probably far-too-many hours of consideration given to these instruments that we love, come up with a wish-list and a half. No one has said that your ideas for improvement are bad ideas, but sometimes the cost of improvement doesn't necessarily produce enough bang for the buck. It is also a bit presumptuous to assume that your perspective as a consumer is the end-all be-all. Most of us here put a lot of faith and trust in EBMM and that they are looking out for us as customers (mostly because they've proved it over and over and over), so it's not unlikely that folks here are going to get slightly annoyed when that faith is called into question...BP even said that they have looked at the new SKB cases and rejected them for QC reasons. So again, no hostility, not a bad idea, it just seems that the timing is off.
Big Poppa
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thank you jack I guess when I am the first to stress the diference between perception and reality they sikim over that.
I only take these assemblers to task when they imply manufacting execution.
I have also said at least 100 times that Im all about choice. I guess I tip my hat to a guy who can sell a korean version of his fender clone for more than my usa made stuff.
I only take these assemblers to task when they imply manufacting execution.
I have also said at least 100 times that Im all about choice. I guess I tip my hat to a guy who can sell a korean version of his fender clone for more than my usa made stuff.
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oli@bass
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I think the better partner to discuss case improvements would be SKB. They manufacture those cases, whatever guitar maker/assembler/brander logo is stamped into or onto them. SKB might be interested in incorporating your ideas into a superior aftermarket case.
However, I don't think that aforementioned guitar makers/assemblers/branders will be shipping their instruments by default much fancier and more costly cases, if the lower priced ones provide the same protection for their instruments. Because that's the main point of a case: Shipping protection.
All other things, makup mirrors included, should be transported in Beth's beauty case...
However, I don't think that aforementioned guitar makers/assemblers/branders will be shipping their instruments by default much fancier and more costly cases, if the lower priced ones provide the same protection for their instruments. Because that's the main point of a case: Shipping protection.
All other things, makup mirrors included, should be transported in Beth's beauty case...
boristhespider7
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Thanks for wiping the tears from my eyes guys. Excuse me while I go patent my case improvement ideas so I can get rich from all of the manufacturers who will want them one day.
bovinehost
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Don't forget Beth's make-up mirror thing.
mynan
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I do have to admit that I've broken just about every case lock that I've ever locked. I always forget that I locked it, force it open, and then it's broken. My guess is that they're really just made so that they don't "accidentally" come open during transport, not to keep theives from opening them.
RobertB
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Bingo. Yes, "if it ain't broke don't fix it", if taken literally, would be a short-sighted view to take on any product "roadmap". But when talking about cases ... how much of a "roadmap" - considering all the associated overhead/expense, r&d and otherwise - is really justified, when <a> it's already satisfying all the product requirements you've levied against it, and <b> it's in the "supporting" category that a guitar case is in? Let the R&D and overhead dollars go into new bass/guitar r&d, in my opinion, unless there's a glaring shortcoming with the cases. For example, I'd much rather see a Bongo6, Sterling5, and BFR SR4 unveiled at NAMM, than to have any of them replaced by a new case - again, given the fact that the cases are already great.
RobertB
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mynan
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Do it...then buy a small, struggling, guitar company, work your a$$ off to make it a success, then YOU can be the target for everyone hurling their brilliant ideas around, wondering why YOU weren't smart enough to think of that...
Baird
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The case that came with my 2007 LE SR is tres cool! Very blue interior and the blue exterior is kinda neat (although for what I paid, I was expecting fine Italian leather and velvet ).
I have a bunch of Fender cases and they are hit and miss. The RI tweed cases are excellent and last forever. The hardshell moulded plastic cases are garbage and I would never dream of checking one as baggage.
One thing I like about the blue LE case is that it doesn't say EBMM on the exterior. I hate advertising "steal me, expensive guitar inside" as GIBSON USA is 12" gold lettering does.
P.S. Shouldn't this post be in the "Cases and Gig Bags" forum?
).I have a bunch of Fender cases and they are hit and miss. The RI tweed cases are excellent and last forever. The hardshell moulded plastic cases are garbage and I would never dream of checking one as baggage.
One thing I like about the blue LE case is that it doesn't say EBMM on the exterior. I hate advertising "steal me, expensive guitar inside" as GIBSON USA is 12" gold lettering does.
P.S. Shouldn't this post be in the "Cases and Gig Bags" forum?
Aussie Mark
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There are better cases on the market if you are so inclined to pay the extra money. I like the EBMM cases, but I have a couple of more expensive Hiscox cases for daily use because they are lighter, smaller and have internal compartments. That's my choice, and I like that I have the choice without paying more up front.
nashman
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I love my 2006 LE Ray case. Very plush inside, classy, slender. For me, the nice case is a bonus. Mine has a covered section (I guess not all do?). I care about the bass more than the case - the case just peforms an offline utility function. The new Fender case looks kind of cool. I have taken a good look at the new American Standard cases. It might not be better though - it's different, but not necessarily better. I don't care about the case lock - I have never not bought a piece of luggage because the lock was not robust enough. I have never not bought a laptop because of the travel bag. In fact, does a laptop travel bag even enter into the buying decision - or is the important thing the laptop itself? I have never had my EBMM latches open unexpectedly. I do find it to be a bit heavy (probably age related!). I think it could be improved with a more comfortable handle - but that's about it. Other than that, it's a nice case and does the job.
Big Poppa
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you know that there are some who cant open the le cases...bassists too!
bovinehost
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Don't worry about it. We're just typing on the internet about basses.
But to everyone involved, please, let's try to keep in mind that saying something sucks or is a POS or whatever is not only unproductive but also provides no real information.
If you prefer EBMM to Fender or DiPinto or whatever, that's good! That's excellent! I like that a lot!
But "Fender makes turds" just doesn't leave room for discussion, which is what we're about here on Ye Olde Internette.
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