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MusicManJP6

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A friend and I installed a Crunch Lab and Liquifire in my standard JP6 this past weekend. I went from the original older pickups (pre-DSonic) to these new pickups. After seeing DT live last week (the same day the pickups arrived) I had a really good feeling about these new pickups. My only concern was the basswood body. After hearing these pickups I have no more concerns about that. :D

FYI - I tried a D-Sonic once before (about a year ago) and did not like it. It was too over the top and did not balance well with the stock neck pickup. I could never EQ my amp to even out the two pups - it was always too dark on the neck or too bright on the bridge. And, it made the split middle position sound harsh...

I've not really had a ton of time to play with these pickups yet, but here's my first impressions. The first little session I had with them was right after the install and we had two JPs with original pickups around for comparison.

Crunch Lab: First off, this pickup is brighter (and hotter) than the original pickup (no real surprise here). But, it retains the tightness and focus while adding mids and treble. It feels more articulate and has more bite and seems to have a sharper attack that feels more 'urgent'. It is not harsh and the bass response is great and the tone is very balanced. I am finally able to turn the treble and presence down on my DC-3! I used to have to crank it with the other pickups. I think the added output and mids/treble response allows the amp to sound more natural and increases clarity. With the tone rolled back it smooths out more and blends nicely if needed. The tone pot is more musical with these pickups which was one of my complaints about the stock bridge pup compared to my PRS. The PRS still has a more usable tone pot, but these pickups helped this guitar's tone pot's usefulness for sure. With the volume rolled back it cleans up nicely for a hot pickup and is very musical throughout the range of the knob. Leads seem to pop off the fretboard while rhythms are tight and coherent.

Liquifire: Wow. This pickup smokes the stock neck pickup - hands down! It is hotter, but it also sounds brighter due to it's increased mids. I've actually never heard a neck pickup sound this good! It's brighter than most neck pickups, but it is still warm. It has a nice sparkle on the top end and is not too bassy. There is NO mud whatsoever. It is a very clear and still balanced sounding pickup. I would have no trouble using it for rhythms (and of course liquid leads). Notes seem to be drenched in overtones and harmonics. With the tone rolled back to half it takes on a very cool vocal quality. When the volume is rolled back to about 6 or 7 the dynamics are insane!

Overall: I really love how these pickups interact. They both sound equally awesome for leads AND rhythms (that's a first). You can start in the neck position and then hit the bridge and it just screams while continuing where the neck pickup left off. I have a push/pull pot installed on my JP and the split coil tones sound better than ever with these pickups! I think JP and DiMarzio did a great job with these pickups. Even if JP did not put his stamp of approval on these I would still think they sound better than any pickups I've heard in a long time. I'm back in love with my JP!

I'm working on creating some clips to compare the old pups to the new pups...
 
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ProtoChicken

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I have a question for you as I'll be putting mine in my BFR 7 today or tomorrow.

With the stock pickups there is no difference in volume when switching between the bridge and neck pickups, since the pickups are direct mounted and the pick up cavities are routed at different depths for the neck and bridge they are balanced perfectly. Did you find that despite the fact that that the new pickups have a higher output than the original pickups that there is still no noticeable difference in volume when switching from neck to bridge, or did you end up having to use springs, tubing, foam, or some type of shim to get the correct volume balance between pickups?
 
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I have a question for you as I'll be putting mine in my BFR 7 today or tomorrow.

With the stock pickups there is no difference in volume when switching between the bridge and neck pickups since the pickups are direct mounted and the pick up cavities are routed at different depths for the neck and bridge. Did you find that despite the fact that that the new pickups have a higher output than the original pickups that there is still no noticeable difference in volume when switching from neck to bridge? Or did you end up having to use springs, tubing, foam or some type of shim to get the correct volume balance between pickups.

I kept the stock heights (directly mounted to body) and there is no volume drop/change when switching pickups at all. They balance out perfectly.
 

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I kept the stock heights (directly mounted to body) and there is no volume drop/change when switching pickups at all. They balance out perfectly.

Excellent, thanks so much for the review and the quick reply, I look forward to the sound clips

I see the output on the Liquifire 6 is hotter than on the Liquifire 7, though the Crunch Lab is the same for both, but I'm not too worried about that, as I'm sure they will balance perfectly as well.
 

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You didn't like the original neck pickup? That thing sounds perfect to my ears, aside from the hard-to-achieve pinches.
 

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Yeah, I figured it might have been a relative decision, rather than a straight up preference.
 

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Anyone else tried these pickups that have anything to add? I played some more last night and I really, really like these pickups. They have the best tone I've heard in a long time. Highly recommend!
 

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I just finished the install on my BFR7. Not much to add that MusicManJP6 hasn't already said. According to DiMarzio,
the LiquiFire 7 isn’t an exact duplicate of the 6-string version. The attack is a little more focused and the voicing is shifted down about 500Hz to bring out the sound of the seventh string.
I'm not sure how best to relate that to MusicMan's review, but I will reiterate his sentiments in regards to muddiness. There is none what so ever, and you could easily use this pickup for rhythm parts.

I hear more of a noticeable difference when switching from neck to bridge and vice versa than I did with the stock pickups. Not due to any difference in volume but because of the bite of the Cruch Lab. Also I like the sound of the two inner coils a lot with these. Other than that I have nothing to add to the initial review which does a great job of describing these pickups. I'll most likely throw a pair in my JP6, and I am very pleased that the Dargire JP BFR's will be shipping with these.
 
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Glad you like them!

I'm plugging up to my Rectifier tonight for the first time with the new pickups. If you feel any tremors tonight don't worry... it's just me! :p
 

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Kinda off topic, but since the Liquifire was "modified" for either 6 or 7, is there a difference in the original modified Air Norton between the 6 and the 7. Sometimes I think my 7 sounds smoother in the neck than the 6, but might be placebo effect.
 

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i've had these pickups for several weeks now and the neck pickup is probably the best neck p.u. I have ever played. Its got all the right frequencies and just the right amount of low end.

whatever they did on this pickup they should extend it to a matching bridge version with just a little more output.
 
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