Need some help setting up my pedals....

[puppyonacid]

Just bought an Ernie Ball VPJR. It's pretty much the last thing I needed for my band set-up. Needless to say it's sweet! I didn't realise as well that between the guitar and amp it works just like the volume pot on my JP6. Meaning, when i turn it down it cleans the sound up. Very useful! Especially considering how I'll be using the piezo along side. Can't wait to try it out at the rehearsal room. Thing is, I'm not entirely sure how to set it all up and in what order to get the best from everything. I want to build a pedal board you see so I want to make sure I know what order to put everything in before I start.

I have the following pedals to put between my guitar and amp:

EBVPJR, Vox Wah, Boss DS1, Boss ND2 (noise suppressor), Boss TU2 (tuner) and I'll also be putting a Boss DD20 Giga Delay (that pedal is amazing! 5 Delays settings at the push of a pedal!) on the effects loop.

I'm not to savvy when it comes to such things, but I'd like to keep the guitar to amp path as clean as I can.

Any advice would be much appreciated!

 

[Axistence]

Hi, try this PDF from Boss, in the page 34 they explain how to order your pedals. It's an option at least.
BTW, everybody knows that it should work better with a EB Wah instead

EDIT: Congrats for the EB VP!

 

[puppyonacid]

Thanks man. Very useful.

 

[SteveB]

I have the following pedals to put between my guitar and amp:

EBVPJR, Vox Wah, Boss DS1, Boss ND2 (noise suppressor), Boss TU2 (tuner) and I'll also be putting a Boss DD20 Giga Delay (that pedal is amazing! 5 Delays settings at the push of a pedal!) on the effects loop.

I haven't looked at the PDF from BOSS that was mentioned, so I hope I'm not duplicating their info.

I'd go:

guitar ->VPjr ->Wah ->Delay ->DS1 ->Noise Suppressor ->amp and put the tuner on the VPjr's "tuner out" jack.

Of course, if you're going to put the delay in the effects looop, just remove it from the chain above.

 

[puppyonacid]

The boss PDF really just goes into creating different sound. Not so much how to set up your effects. Looks interesting though. The set-up you gave me Steve is kinda what I was thinking so thanks for confirming that. Thing is, the NS2 has a loop thingy on it where you basically go into the NS2, then add effects like the DS1 and Wah and they loop back to the return on the NS2, then you got straight to the amp. It is bascially utilising the NS2 in the best way that's confusing me.


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[jagged]

I would go:

AMP <- DD20 <- DS1 <- ND2 <- Vox Wah <- BVPJR <- TU2 <- GUITAR

Most of it is pretty objective... depending on the sound you want, you should play aroudn with the arrangement until you hear something you like... yea it takes some time, but I don't think that there are any "best ways" to arrange your pedals.

 

[beej]

Which VPJr is it? 25k or 250k? That could affect your order.

 

[Norrin Radd]

The boss PDF really just goes into creating different sound. Not so much how to set up your effects. Looks interesting though. The set-up you gave me Steve is kinda what I was thinking so thanks for confirming that. Thing is, the NS2 has a loop thingy on it where you basically go into the NS2, then add effects like the DS1 and Wah and they loop back to the return on the NS2, then you got straight to the amp. It is bascially utilising the NS2 in the best way that's confusing me.

A buddy of mine has an NS2 that sat in his guitar case for about 4 years. THEN, he hooked it up via the directions using the loop on it. Now he won't play out without it. Swears by it and says it is absolutely amazing - "especially when I used it like they told me to!". I'd give it a shot the way the BOSS guys say to. My two cents.

 

[SteveB]

Thing is, the NS2 has a loop thingy on it where you basically go into the NS2, then add effects like the DS1 and Wah and they loop back to the return on the NS2, then you got straight to the amp. It is bascially utilising the NS2 in the best way that's confusing me.

Well, you can use that as an additional 'loop'... hmm.. whatever you put in that loop is up to you.

I'd probably put the wah in that loop for sure, because so many wahs are tone-suckers when they're turned off. But anything is game.

Think of using the NS2's loop as a way to either:
a) pull some effects out of the loop that might be killing your tone when they're bypassed.

b) create a 'group' of pedals that can be switched on or off via a single stomp of the NS2.

 

[TonyEVH5150]

My suggestion was going to be playing around with the placement of the DS-1. I've got my distortion/overdrive pedal in front of the wah. Give it a great SRV feel when the wah and overdrive are both on. It also helps tame some of the quackyness of the wah.

 

[puppyonacid]

Which VPJr is it? 25k or 250k? That could affect your order.

It's the one for passive instruments. Cant remember which that is.

Thanks for the help guys. I do find actually that with the wah off i lose a bit of punch to the sound so I have to play harder. But, sound-wise its not such a bad thing. I don't go in too much for heavily saturated distortion sounds. I think I prefer the wah before the DS1 then into the amp. I prefer to distort the wah rather than wahing he distortion. And I put the DD20 on the loop because I use my amps gain as well as the DS1.

Decisions decisions. Thing is, I do love the way my amp sounds with the gain on about 8 with the DS1 infront. Its jsut a case of trying to get that sound whilst making sure anything I use doesn't kill it. In actual fact, there aren't really many effects there aside from the wah and delay. The rest of the stuff are more functional things.

 

[Tim O'Sullivan]

As with all these things, there are no hard and fast rules. I would always put time based effects (chorus and delay etc) in the loop and drive pedals and Wah's in the front end. That said, matey from Rage against the machine puts his wah in the loop and it sounds great!

 

[beej]

That said, matey from Rage against the machine puts his wah in the loop and it sounds great!

O/T, but speaking of Rage ... they're back. Big tour coming soon.