new convert..

[wagnerite]

hi, im interested in acquiring a JP6, but have few questions...

1. what attracked me to this guitar is the neck. are all EBMM guitar necks like this (my dealer only had this one guitar)? if not, is there a ebmm guitar that has even thinner neck?

2. if i custom order a JP6, can i get EBMM to build one thats non-floating bridge (hard tail, i believe they're called)?

3. Im in so cal, I.E. area, is Wildwest guitar a good place to go to check out EBMM? i went to GC in rancho, thats where i found the JP6... which was burried amongst the "mtv guitars"

I currently use a Jackson for my electric needs, im a classical guitar player that kind of dabble with electric guitar. I really wanted to get another Jackson because of the neck dimension. However, current line of Jackson have grown in neck size. They're much fatter now.

 

[Sub1 Zero]

Well, you can of course set the bridge to sit flush. It isn't available in a hardtail config, because that is JP's guitar; they make them so that the artist could walk into a guitar shop, and buy his guitar.

All EBMM necks except the SUB series and the BFR JP (there might be more), are unfinished, if that's what you mean. The JP neck is thin and flat, but the others are a different profile. Hope this helps!

 

[beej]

Actually the JP is routed for the trem so it won't sit flush like the Axis.

But you can block the trem with a piece of wood or a gadget like the Tremol-no, etc. to prevent it from floating.

 

[Larry]

Wild West Guitars is a good place to check out. I bought my Axis there before I knew of Pete DuBaldo

 

[glockaxis]

They (WW) never returned my emails. I use Dubaldo Music----have a couple on order---The brothers are great guys to deal w/.

 

[wagnerite]

good grief! I picked the wrong time to become a EBMM convert. I just found out that the guitar I was trying out was a JP6. Appearently, JP-BFR just came out which leads to more questions:

contained pricing info.... edited!! wag

if all I'm interested is the way it "feels" to my hands when i play it... and if, somehow, JP6 feels slightly more comfortable TO ME, then is the BFR worth many hundreds more? I understand there are some body shape is tweaked, I assume the neck dimension stayed the same? reason i ask this is -- what makes JP more comfortable might not make me more comfortable.

uh, the neck does remain the same, right?'

If i can't get a JP (jp6 or BFR) without a trem. bridge, can i at least order one withOUT the piezo? i can order this configuration at any authorized EBMM dealer?

 

[Jimmyb]

Hi Wagnerite. Posting of street prices is frowned upon here, so you should edit your post.

As far as the differences between the BFR and regular JP, there are some really good threads which detail all of the differences, but from memory they include:

>Finished neck, as opposed to Oil/Wax combi
>Tone block
>Maple cap opposed to all basswood body of standard JP
>Switch to activate all pickups

 

[roburado]

As has been said, discussion of prices found on the street is frowned upon here by EBMM. So, I will also encourage the editing of your post.

The cost of a JP6 is based on a few things. What options come with the guitar you tried? JP6 in its base configuration has dot inlays on the fretboard (as opposed to the JP shield inlays), no piezo, no matching headstock, no paint requiring and upcharge (i.e., neither Mystic Dream, nor Radiance Red). The regular JP6 can be ordered without piezo. Of course, as you add these options, the cost will go up. You also cannot order the JP6 with a fixed bridge. The guitar will be composed of a basswood body, maple neck and rosewood fretboard. You can order a JP6 without any of those options from any dealer who knows what they're talking about. Here is a JP6 in base configuration.

This guy has a fully loaded JP6. http://www.ernieball.com/forums/music-man-guitars/21436-post-pics-you-your-ernie-ball-music-man-11.html#post389860

The BFR? Is it worth the price differential? Only you can answer the question for yourself. However, if you compare the JP BFR to other guitars of similar construction, I think you will find that it beats a lot of them on price. What am I talking about? Compare it to a nice PRS, not one of the SE models. The JP BFR has a highly figured maple top. Underneath this maple top there is an alder body within which the magicians at EBMM have placed a mahogany tone block. The neck is mahogany with a rosewood fretboard. The hardware and electronics are the same except for a push/pull pot that allows for all 4 coils of the pickups to be engaged at one time. The JP BFR comes fully loaded with options. There is no option to delete any of them. So, that's where the extra cost goes. I think it's worth it. Some people who have seen JP play the first prototype live in concert felt that the guitar sounded better than the regular JP6. At that time, it just looked like the JP6 crossed with the 20th Anniversary Silhouette. Now, the guitar has evolved. During the prototyping of the guitar, JP had one or more in the studio. He reported that the guitar was very inspiring and had a wonderful tone. People who have tried it say that it sounds wonderful. Personally, I think you get a lot of guitar for the money with the JP BFR and, probably, the Luke BFR.

At this moment, Wild West Guitars has a Bahama Blue BFR JP6 on their website. The specifications listed there indicate a basswood body, maple neck with rosewood fretboard. Those bits of information are incorrect. They also state that the neck has a gunstock oil/hand-rubbed wax "finish." That is also incorrect. The BFR JP has a finished neck due to the porosity of mahogany.

I understand that your concern is that the JP BFR may not be comfortable for you. Well, the neck reportedly has the same shape as the regular JP models. Well, don't worry. If you don't like the BFR shape, you'll still be able to get the regular JP. Those guitars are reportedly not going away as JP has said that he still likes them and stands by them. Sterling Ball has said that as long as there is demand, those guitars will still be produced.

 

[wagnerite]

post edited... sorry, didnt read the faq section carefully enough

 

[kbaim]

I played the BFR at Wild West last thurs before a gig. It was nice. The flame top is somewhat muted.

 

[wagnerite]

uh, this might be the kicker.... BFR neck is painted?!?!?! please, i need to confirm this, ordering tomorrow.

 

[kissmyaxe]

Yes it is painted

 

[roburado]

Pics: http://www.ernieball.com/forums/music-man-guitars/21197-john-petrucci-ball-family-reserve-pics.html#post301636

 

[knj316]

Wild West Guitars

I purchased my Axis from Wild West Guitars back in January, they are very good to deal with. Since you are local to the area, it's definately worth the visit.

I've also heard nothing but wonderful things about Dubaldo music. Many people on this forum have purchased guitars from them.