jonnycutlass
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Hi - does anyone know what the lead time is for new guitar orders [ EBMM Cutlass RS SSS Vintage Tobacco ]? I have been told different things from various shops - 6 months , 9 months , 12 months+ !!
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Virtuoso
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No need to wait - there are 13 available on Reverb at the moment (new and used). Not sure if they ship to the UK but it's worth a look...
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Epiplatys
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Ordered and pre-paid a spalted maple majesty 7 1.5 years ago, and still waiting for it. Been provided the ETA 4 times and all four times it got pushed out. At this point I think I probably won’t be taking it if/when it comes. I mean you want to wait only for so long, and then you just get disappointed and mentally move on. As much as I like MM I certainly won’t be placing any new orders going forward.
jonnycutlass
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Thanks for replies. Found what I wanted in US but could find any of those sites that delivered to UK. Couldn't find the exact model/config I wanted on reverb in Europe/UK (much more expensive at least £700+ more) and if I am spending that kind of money, you want to get exactly what you want right? Found some HT Cutlass models in UK but they way too expensive. I have been speaking to dealer/shop in UK but they were extremely non-committal - basically said it could be 9 months -12 months but could be longer could be shorter. I suppose the quicker I order it the quicker it get here but waiting for 18 months must be torture.
Keep your eye open you can buy direct from the EBMM Vault these days and they ship international. They update this site often.
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Good luck in your search.
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jonnycutlass
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Thanks Glenn - I did notice they ship internationally - I nearly went for the '58 Cutlass but it was just out of my price range and what sealed it was the shipping when I added it to the basket - more than $800 to ship to the UK (which I can understand) but simply couldn't afford that. I will keep checking out the vault though. Thanks again.
TripHazard
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800 to the UK is insane. Guitar I had shipped from CME last year was 250 dollars
jonnycutlass
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yes - you are correct TripHazard - the $800 dollars was the duties and taxes, the shipping was $170 dollars so it was about $1000 extra on top of the listed price.
fbecir
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800 $.
Well with a VAT of 20%, custom taxes (2 or 3%) and the shipping ... it's what we pay in Europe.
Brexit did not change a thing for English people
Sweat
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Build time varies on many things
TripHazard
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That makes sense. That’s pretty much what mine ended up with once the taxes were taken in. I thought you meant it was 800 and then taxes on top
TripHazard
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So true800 $.
Well with a VAT of 20%, custom taxes (2 or 3%) and the shipping ... it's what we pay in Europe.
Brexit did not change a thing for English people
DrKev
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Yes, figure 24% on the combined cost of the guitar *and* the shipping. In both the UK and Europe nobody gets away without paying any more. Those days are long gone. And remember that sales tax is almost never included in US prices, so they are are in a sense artificially low compared to Europe. (The same is true in a restaurant, and it's a rude awakening when you forget, and that's before you add 20% for a tip).800 $.
Well with a VAT of 20%, custom taxes (2 or 3%) and the shipping ... it's what we pay in Europe.
Brexit did not change a thing for English people
PeteDuBaldo
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It depends on the model and where EBMM currently has "bucket dates" (build slots) available. There might be room for a freshly ordered Cutlass to hit production in 6 months, while a Stingray bass might be scheduled for 9-12 months out.
Right now EBMM is shuffling production around to better manage their backorders, in some cases this means an instrument suddenly comes through earlier than expected, while in some cases it could be delayed by a few months.
I recently shipped a guitar to the UK via FedEx and it was around 600 after the insured value was added. A smaller guitar/case (dimensional costs for shipping are terrible) and a lower declared value would have cost less.
Yes, BP has said in the past that import duty/taxes/distribution/warehousing adds almost 1/3 to the cost of the instrument.
Sales tax over here varies from 0-9% with my state of CT being 6.35%. As a bonus savings for my customers I don't have to collect sales tax on direct orders placed/shipped outside CT, but the major/chain retailers do have to collect tax nationwide.
Never ever do that. Some shops can be quite predatory on the whole pre-order concept and totally lie on delivery times. Always best to just keep scanning reverb and shop web sites and hope what you are looking for pops up eventually.
jonnycutlass
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Thanks for the info guys.
PeteDuBaldo - in your experience, how often should I expect the factory and therefore my dealer to give updates on the ETA of the order? One of the guys who posted said he has been waiting for 18 months which is definitely a worry.
PeteDuBaldo - in your experience, how often should I expect the factory and therefore my dealer to give updates on the ETA of the order? One of the guys who posted said he has been waiting for 18 months which is definitely a worry.
morsecode
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I had a quote from another company from Germany and the wait time was sometime between the Spring and Summer of 2025.
Outside of the big 3 companies, wait times appear to be long everywhere. Even the wait time for some models of the big 3 are over a year out while some have been put on hold altogether. I assume reliably sourcing parts is still a major challenge in the industry as it is everywhere else. Not sure if this is the new status quo but I don’t see things getting much better anytime soon.
Outside of the big 3 companies, wait times appear to be long everywhere. Even the wait time for some models of the big 3 are over a year out while some have been put on hold altogether. I assume reliably sourcing parts is still a major challenge in the industry as it is everywhere else. Not sure if this is the new status quo but I don’t see things getting much better anytime soon.
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PeteDuBaldo
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EBMM factory to dealer updates are not automatic, they need to be requested by the dealer. Fortunately I talk with the factory frequently, either while placing orders or paying for orders, and that is generally when I ask for updates - if time permits.
I'm not at all surprised by the 18 months on a Spice Melange, they have been taking a long time to come out. I am still waiting on some, as well.
After the recent maple top Majesty guitars were announced there were some major changes made at the factory to improve and streamline production, but unfortunately those changes required some shifts in production and unforeseen delays. When guitars are suddenly pushed out a few months, and then normal production delays happen (holidays, vacations, weather, supply chain issues, etc), it can be frustrating for everyone - factory - dealer - customer.
Sweat
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The Silo Special I bought last year in the spring was estimated to arrive in October but it ended up shipping late July so you never know!
jonnycutlass
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Thanks all for the info - much appreciated. Hopefully I will be lucky and not have to wait 12 months +.
