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Ted

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Hey Guys,

Got my first EBMM in September of 2022-- A new BFR Valentine. I got my second last March-- also a Valentine-- the Trans Buttermilk-- used in mint condition. I love them both and had been thinking about getting my third for a few months. Models I was considering were the Cutlass HT (as a higher end companion to my Strat), another Valentine (such as a Carmelo), the St. Vincent Goldie (looks so cool), and the Mariposa (same reason), and the Albert Lee (the first EBMM guitar in which I was ever interested). Aside from a Cutlass I really was gravitating toward something with humbuckers this time.

Well last Thursday I happened to look on Reverb and see that a local shop had just gotten in a used Albert Lee in excellent condition. It was made in 2011-- a bit older than what I was looking for-- and not really a finish in which I'd had any interest (Trans Walnut)-- but it did have the total rosewood neck on it, which definitely interested me. I supposed it would not sit in the shop very long, so even though I was scheduled to work a double shift from 8 AM the next day (Friday) until about midnight, I would see if I could sneak out on a lunch break and go try it out-- since I'd never gotten to even play or hold an Albert Lee model. I figured I'd play it so I'd know if I liked it and then maybe not necessarily buy that one...

So on Friday I worked the morning and then asked my boss if I could leave work for about an hour and he said to be back at a certain time. Not a big window of time, but I drove to the guitar shop and walked in and saw it hanging on the wall amidst a bunch of strats and other vintage instruments. It looked so nice. I asked to play it and it played so nice. Maybe even better than my Trans Buttermilk Valentine, if that's possible. Clean as a whistle. As I played, I looked at the clock, thinking about when I had to be back at work and I started getting nervous. I didn't want to stop playing it but I had to make a decision. Also one of the guys in the shop cut his hand on something and started screaming and cursing and it was distracting me and freaking me out a little.

Dammit. No time left. "Ok, I'll take it."

So I took it back to work and brought it in and put the case inside a closet behind my bar. Some of my coworkers were like " you bought a GUITAR on your break? How many guitars do you have now?" Haha. I showed it to some of my coworkers and they thought it was beautiful. One girl said "Oh my god, THAT IS SUPER CUTE!"

My other boss walked up and said "OK, lets see your new SG or whatever it is that Alvin Lee plays". He doesn't know anything about guitars and I had to correct him-- "No Randy, its not an SG-- it's also not Alvin Lee's 335. it's not an Alvin Lee guitar at all, it's an ALBERT Lee guitar!" lmao.

It was a long night to be able to get done with work and take it home and play it through my rig-- and I was dog tired, but I stayed up playing it for hours. Really impressive tones. The cleans are warm but very articulate and the 2 and 4 positions are very useful for getting the more jangly single coil sounds. The one thing that bugged me a little is the pickup selector is very easy to accidentally hit and move when doing some aggressive funk style chording. And this can especially be a problem since there is a marked difference in volume between positions 1/3/5 and positions 2/4-- it can be jarring. But I'll get back to this.

The all rosewood neck is just beautiful to look at and luxurious in the hand. it also looks really nice with the Trans Walnut finish-- which again was not a color I initially liked all that much. For an Albert Lee, I wanted something bright and crazy and maybe metallic or sparkly. I don't know why EBMM calls this finish "walnut" since walnut is brown and this color is a deep red-- and it's made of African Mahogany. But the finish is really pretty. It's like a wine red or deep black cherry to me. I like it with the black pickguard.

Sometimes on weird futuristic guitars, I think I'd want something crazy and bright but then I see it in a more vintage finish which balances the more "out there" lines of the instrument and it works for me. When I got my Kiesel Holdsworth guitar-- I wanted to get something in a neon green or hot pink and then happened to see one in a vintage tobacco burst and it pulled on my heartstrings. It just worked. Also like with the Kaizens. I liked the brighter colors and did not like that trans honeysuckle one in the Vault, but now that one is probably my favorite one.

So here are a few pics... tempImageQuQlA4.png

Now... for the bonus surprise about this guitar...

I was wondering why this one has the chrome knobs on it rather than the black "hat style" knobs like on most of the Albert Lees I've seen. I was thinking a previous owner had modded it and that annoyed me a little. But looking online, I saw a few pics here and there of ALs that also had the chrome knobs. And I was wondering why the selector had a chrome switch tip on it. I did some reading in old forum posts and saw some post where someone was talking about the ones with chrome knobs and switch tips as being a special run produced for Guitar Center which actually have a push-pull coil split on the tone knob. WHAT!?!

I cautiously gripped the tone knob to see if it would pull out-- hoping not to break it if it didn't. And I pulled it out. WOOHOO!!! So this Albert Lee HH can get all single coil tones as well as the humbuckers. I did not know that any of these even existed. So I played with the tones and found that I like the single splits very much. I do a lot of that clean funky stuff and sometimes humbuckers are too thick and woofy for that. The singles are just what I need. Also the nice thing is that it only affects positions 1-3-5 and when playing with the knob pulled up, if I accidentally hit the pickup selector-- all the pickup positions now are not as drastically different in volume. I can funk away without worrying too much about clunky transistions in output.

I can see why people rave about this model. It's very balanced and ergonomic. The pickups in these are really incredible. Plays like a bullet train. Mine was supposed to be 7.8 lbs, but I weighed it myself and it's actually only 7.2 lbs-- so it's really light.

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Mine even has some flame in the mahogany on the back (also what looks like a tiny ding in there is not. It's a reflection of something outside my window)
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And here's a pic of the Albert Lee next to one of my Valentines:
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I am now in the Albert Lee club. :)
 
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Congrats man!!! You can't go wrong with an AL that's for sure.

Glenn |B)
 
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Man, I LOVE nice stories about guitars and this is a FUCKING NICE STORY ABOUT GUITARS WITH HAPPY ENDING!!!
The guitar is AWESOME....wonderful finish (and yes...Randy is right...that finish makes it look LIKE a SG...another guitar I own and love a lot), FUCKING WONDERFUL all-rosewood neck, the Axis/EVH pickups...and the push-pull tone to split them.
What you want more? A date with the girl who said that's SO SUPER CUTE??? :)
Very good business, Ted.
The Albert Lee is the next guitar I will target.
Now, guys....shame on you! You know I suffer and you keep making me see these ALs.
Shame on you.
Now confess: how much did you pay for that beauty? :)
 
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Congratulations

The AL is a great guitar. Mine was made also in 2011 (13th May 2011), in Classic Candy.
But I had to add a mini-switch for splitting the humbuckers. In fact, now I play more with the splitted humbuckers than with the full humbuckers !
 
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I have the same model. GC special with push/pull coil split, trans walnut finish, all rosewood neck. Mine's a little more beat up than yours. :cool: Seriously spectacular guitar.
 
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Hey Guys,

Got my first EBMM in September of 2022-- A new BFR Valentine. I got my second last March-- also a Valentine-- the Trans Buttermilk-- used in mint condition. I love them both and had been thinking about getting my third for a few months. Models I was considering were the Cutlass HT (as a higher end companion to my Strat), another Valentine (such as a Carmelo), the St. Vincent Goldie (looks so cool), and the Mariposa (same reason), and the Albert Lee (the first EBMM guitar in which I was ever interested). Aside from a Cutlass I really was gravitating toward something with humbuckers this time.

Well last Thursday I happened to look on Reverb and see that a local shop had just gotten in a used Albert Lee in excellent condition. It was made in 2011-- a bit older than what I was looking for-- and not really a finish in which I'd had any interest (Trans Walnut)-- but it did have the total rosewood neck on it, which definitely interested me. I supposed it would not sit in the shop very long, so even though I was scheduled to work a double shift from 8 AM the next day (Friday) until about midnight, I would see if I could sneak out on a lunch break and go try it out-- since I'd never gotten to even play or hold an Albert Lee model. I figured I'd play it so I'd know if I liked it and then maybe not necessarily buy that one...

So on Friday I worked the morning and then asked my boss if I could leave work for about an hour and he said to be back at a certain time. Not a big window of time, but I drove to the guitar shop and walked in and saw it hanging on the wall amidst a bunch of strats and other vintage instruments. It looked so nice. I asked to play it and it played so nice. Maybe even better than my Trans Buttermilk Valentine, if that's possible. Clean as a whistle. As I played, I looked at the clock, thinking about when I had to be back at work and I started getting nervous. I didn't want to stop playing it but I had to make a decision. Also one of the guys in the shop cut his hand on something and started screaming and cursing and it was distracting me and freaking me out a little.

Dammit. No time left. "Ok, I'll take it."

So I took it back to work and brought it in and put the case inside a closet behind my bar. Some of my coworkers were like " you bought a GUITAR on your break? How many guitars do you have now?" Haha. I showed it to some of my coworkers and they thought it was beautiful. One girl said "Oh my god, THAT IS SUPER CUTE!"

My other boss walked up and said "OK, lets see your new SG or whatever it is that Alvin Lee plays". He doesn't know anything about guitars and I had to correct him-- "No Randy, its not an SG-- it's also not Alvin Lee's 335. it's not an Alvin Lee guitar at all, it's an ALBERT Lee guitar!" lmao.

It was a long night to be able to get done with work and take it home and play it through my rig-- and I was dog tired, but I stayed up playing it for hours. Really impressive tones. The cleans are warm but very articulate and the 2 and 4 positions are very useful for getting the more jangly single coil sounds. The one thing that bugged me a little is the pickup selector is very easy to accidentally hit and move when doing some aggressive funk style chording. And this can especially be a problem since there is a marked difference in volume between positions 1/3/5 and positions 2/4-- it can be jarring. But I'll get back to this.

The all rosewood neck is just beautiful to look at and luxurious in the hand. it also looks really nice with the Trans Walnut finish-- which again was not a color I initially liked all that much. For an Albert Lee, I wanted something bright and crazy and maybe metallic or sparkly. I don't know why EBMM calls this finish "walnut" since walnut is brown and this color is a deep red-- and it's made of African Mahogany. But the finish is really pretty. It's like a wine red or deep black cherry to me. I like it with the black pickguard.

Sometimes on weird futuristic guitars, I think I'd want something crazy and bright but then I see it in a more vintage finish which balances the more "out there" lines of the instrument and it works for me. When I got my Kiesel Holdsworth guitar-- I wanted to get something in a neon green or hot pink and then happened to see one in a vintage tobacco burst and it pulled on my heartstrings. It just worked. Also like with the Kaizens. I liked the brighter colors and did not like that trans honeysuckle one in the Vault, but now that one is probably my favorite one.

So here are a few pics... View attachment 43316

Now... for the bonus surprise about this guitar...

I was wondering why this one has the chrome knobs on it rather than the black "hat style" knobs like on most of the Albert Lees I've seen. I was thinking a previous owner had modded it and that annoyed me a little. But looking online, I saw a few pics here and there of ALs that also had the chrome knobs. And I was wondering why the selector had a chrome switch tip on it. I did some reading in old forum posts and saw some post where someone was talking about the ones with chrome knobs and switch tips as being a special run produced for Guitar Center which actually have a push-pull coil split on the tone knob. WHAT!?!

I cautiously gripped the tone knob to see if it would pull out-- hoping not to break it if it didn't. And I pulled it out. WOOHOO!!! So this Albert Lee HH can get all single coil tones as well as the humbuckers. I did not know that any of these even existed. So I played with the tones and found that I like the single splits very much. I do a lot of that clean funky stuff and sometimes humbuckers are too thick and woofy for that. The singles are just what I need. Also the nice thing is that it only affects positions 1-3-5 and when playing with the knob pulled up, if I accidentally hit the pickup selector-- all the pickup positions now are not as drastically different in volume. I can funk away without worrying too much about clunky transistions in output.

I can see why people rave about this model. It's very balanced and ergonomic. The pickups in these are really incredible. Plays like a bullet train. Mine was supposed to be 7.8 lbs, but I weighed it myself and it's actually only 7.2 lbs-- so it's really light.

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Mine even has some flame in the mahogany on the back (also what looks like a tiny ding in there is not. It's a reflection of something outside my window)
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And here's a pic of the Albert Lee next to one of my Valentines:
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I am now in the Albert Lee club. :)
Nice! Gorgeous guitar, love that Valentine too. I’ve definitely got to find one of those AL’s like you have with the added coil split. All the HH models should have it!
Oh! LOVE IT! :D

I saw that one too. And a few of the early LIIIs had the all rosewood neck and I loved the one I tried many years ago so my mind always go OH YEAH! when it sees one. Great score, well done!
I have one of the 2012 LIIIs in Olive Gold with the all rosewood neck, HSS model. And man, big +1 for the RW necks. EBMM needs to do more!
 

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That's ok... I still like you... ;)
Me too! :)
That's an incredible collection of ALs....probably you don't miss a single variation.
There's one I put my eyes on, but it seems a little too overprized to me...what do you think??


Jesus Christ, my Lord and Savior...that's a wonderful finish....damn' it!
 
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Ted

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Thanks for the replies everyone. I'm really stoked about all the fun I'm going to have with this instrument. I've already been wringing some new song ideas out of it.

Iperfungus--it was about $1700 before tax. I know used ALs can sometimes show up cheaper, but given the very excellent condition of this, I think it was a good price. I will admit though, immediately after I bought it, driving back to work in a hurry, thinking about spending a chunk of money like that, I looked in the rear view mirror and my face was a bright red ( I get like that)-- I looked like I was becoming the same color as my new guitar. haha.

Yeah, the girl who said it was "super cute" is not bad looking at all. :)

Xjbebop-- that is an amazing collection. Like the others have said, that Starry Night is really something-- probably my favorite-- although I hate how they omitted fret markers on that run.

I do think the Albert Lee looks especially good with sparkles + any kind of burst around the edges. That Cherry Punch BFR that Jalcom posted, case in point. I had considered one of those along the way. It's weird seeing them with no pickguard but not bad either-- the Tune-O-Matic was maybe an unusual feature on an Albert Lee.

NickNihil-- it's cool that your Albert is the same exact one! I've seen a vid of yours a while back but I didn't realize at the time that I was gonna get the same one. Maybe someday you and I can both own the same Goldies. :)

fbecir-- our guitars were born a mere 6 days apart! The Classic Candy red is a sweet color for the AL-- I think I've seen a few with tortoiseshell pickguards on them-- and I loved that look.

Whats weird is that I looked at my receipts and I bought my Albert Lee and my second Valentine a year and a day apart from each other. Strange, I guess there's something in the air in the beginning of March that makes me head out of my winter burrow into the spring air of local guitar shops looking for a new EBMM.

A few days ago I took the Albert to my regular tech's shop to have him look it over to make sure everything was good with the neck, etc-- just so I can rest assured that it's a keeper. The action on it is very low-- I like it low for the playability, but it's maybe a tad too low for tone. There are a few spots around the 9th fret where I get a slight buzz. Over all, there is a bit less sustain than I am used to because of the action being so low that I think the strings are hugging the frets. He assured me that it will be an easy fix for him. He wants to do a little work on the nut and adjust the height of my saddles on strings 2-5 to better conform to the radius-- and a few other minor things to get it playing the way I want it. He did some really great work on my Valentines so I know he'll get this one where it needs to be.

This is my first EBMM with a trem and I like the design of it. Mine came with two trem bars. I like that they are "pop-in" style. When I first attached the bar, it was swinging loosely and I had no idea how to get it to remain where I wanted it. I figured out how to use a tiny hex key in the trem block to adjust the tightness of the trem arm-- so now that works very well. The action of my trem is very stiff with 3 springs-- a lot of play in it before it activates-- not at all the way I want it-- it should be an easy fix. I do like to float my trem on my Strat but I'm not sure if I will float the trem on this one or have it decked but with almost zero play.

Here's an outdoor pic:


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Iperfungus--it was about $1700 before tax. I know used ALs can sometimes show up cheaper, but given the very excellent condition of this, I think it was a good price. I will admit though, immediately after I bought it, driving back to work in a hurry, thinking about spending a chunk of money like that, I looked in the rear view mirror and my face was a bright red ( I get like that)-- I looked like I was becoming the same color as my new guitar. haha.

Yeah, the girl who said it was "super cute" is not bad looking at all. :)

Here's an outdoor pic:


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Very good deal, Teddy bear!!! Almost perfect!
That's gorgeous.
Now, go for the girl: say her "hey, wanna come to see THAT SUPERCUTE GUITAR at home???"...
That sounds better than a butterflies collection, to me.
 
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If you treat them right, they'll let you get some airborne pics...

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I'm glad I collected these when I did... the prices have gotten stupid over the last few years.
All of mine were rescues (pre-owned) except for my original AL (origin-AL ?) pictured above, and the Starry Night.
 

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Your Starry Night has matching headstock too...

AL guitars are incredible.
At first look, they could remind a chopping board, but if you look at them with the right eyes...you'll see where the genius is!
Albert Lee and Mr Ball made a wonderful job with these instruments.

The HH version is the one I love more.
I agree about insanely increasing prices.
People is crazy, today more than yesterday.
 
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