Off-topic: Knocked-over guitar=Band fight

[TheAntMan]

Is there more to the story? History?

I think BP is hitting it close to home! Especially with the tone of the drummer's email.

--Ant

 

[Deaj]

If I damaged someone else's instrument, even by accident, I'd pay for 100 percent of the repair. Period. No questions, no hassles, even if the owner offered to split it.

You break it, you pay for it.

'cause that's how I roll.

I CERTAINLY wouldn't cause band drama over a measly $35. Drama sucks and is not worth anyone's time.

This is my take as well. It's not an expectation I'd have of the next guy, it's just how I operate. By the same token I personally would also not ask the responsible party to pay for repairs if someone accidently knocks over one of my guitars or other bits of equipment. This stuff occasionally happens on gigs and in tight rehearsal spaces. Should the responsible party offer to pay for or assist in paying for repairs I would graciously accept partial assistance but I figure that I own part of the responsibility if I have a guitar out on a stand on a stage or in a tight space. This is why I try to put my guitars back in their cases whenever I can. I will at every break if possible (not always feasible though).

I agree with others who have posted that $35 is not worth any drama. If it's possible all parties should just move on from this and drop whatever baggage that may be associated with this incident if possible. IMHO of course.

 

[lovechick]

Thanks everybody. Yes, BP, there's some history between the two gentlemen: their personalities are like oil and water and, as evidenced in the e-mail, the drummer tends to overreact. After reading everyone's feedback, I'm gonna go with adouglas' original assertion: were I the drummer, I'd man up and pay the bill. What will actually happen? The band will throw in the difference from our band fund. So it goes, and thanks again for the feedback.

 

[adouglas]

An instant karma situation if ever I saw one.

Hope that drummer isn't expecting any unsolicited help from the rest of you guys in the near future.

 

[Nasty_Hitman]

If I damaged someone else's instrument, even by accident, I'd pay for 100 percent of the repair. Period. No questions, no hassles, even if the owner offered to split it.

You break it, you pay for it.

'cause that's how I roll.

I CERTAINLY wouldn't cause band drama over a measly $35. Drama sucks and is not worth anyone's time.

Agree 100% and there are innsurances for that kind of stuff. Not expensive and prevent a lot of trouble.

 

[DTG]

ah come on he's a drummer he just couldn't count up to 75 bless him !

 

[Psycho Ward]

I guess I'm different from all you nice folks, if a drummer broke one of my EBMM basses I'd stomp a mud hole in him, then stomp it dry.

 

[MadMatt]

ah come on he's a drummer he just couldn't count up to 75 bless him !

Oh come on now, I'm a drummer too and I can count all the way to 100!!!


Although I must add that when I get past 16 its really hard to keep corrct time

-Matt

 

[Musicman Nut]

I've never posted off-topic here before, hope it's ok, but I'm looking for neutral musicians opinions. Following a gig a few weeks back, my band's drummer knocked over our guitarist's 60s Guild hollowbody, resulting in a cracked headstock. It had, apparently, been broken before. The guitarist kept it as cool as possible and says, "Hey man, it's on your dime, should be about $40-$50." The guitarist reports to our gig this weekend and tells the drummer it was a $75 fix. The drummer gives him $40 after the gig (and presumbaly promises to pay the rest.) Today, the drummer sends this e-mail to the guitarist: "Let this email serve as confirmation that I am not giving you any more money towards the guitar fix. I think that $40 was even a generous amount. It was an ACCIDENT and I apologize and you should at least be willing to meet me halfway with it. Furthermore, you also told me at the gig the night it happened that it was a forty or fifty dollar fix....not $75! I told you I would give you some money TOWARDS it, not all of it out of my pocket! I will resume my normal, fair, deserving, pay like the rest of the band at the next gig." For the record, no EBs were injured and we have money in the band fund to cover the rest. What do you folks think?

First Off your Drummer is an IDIOT. accidents do happen however, nobody can predict the cost til it's repair is done, The guitar player just assumed the cost.
The Drummer should cop up be a man and Pay for the mistake, Real people fix their mistakes. Good Luck, then find a new drummer.

 

[five7]

+1

 

[ptg]

if i damaged someone else's instrument, even by accident, i'd pay for 100 percent of the repair. Period. No questions, no hassles, even if the owner offered to split it.

You break it, you pay for it.

'cause that's how i roll.

I certainly wouldn't cause band drama over a measly $35. Drama sucks and is not worth anyone's time.

+100

 

[ptg]

I guess I'm different from all you nice folks, if a drummer broke one of my EBMM basses I'd stomp a mud hole in him, then stomp it dry.

Hence the name Psycho Ward??

 

[adouglas]

Hence the name Psycho Ward??

 

[pearlredburst]

I think it IS unfair of the drummer to not take responsibility for his actions....regardless of whether it is accidental or on purpose...I mean, he wouldn't PURPOSELY knock his guitar over, would he? I think the drummer should have to buy the guitar player an EBMM personally...a gold roller sounds in order here. Take it from me....I'm a drummer!

In all seriousness, what would this world come to if people didn't take FULL responsibility for their actions?

 

[mynan]

In all seriousness, what would this world come to if people didn't take FULL responsibility for their actions?

I think we're already there...

 

[lovechick]

Musicman Nut: I can't debate your assessment of the drummer's demeanor. Pearlredburst: the guitarist would kill to get his hands on my AL. After a couple years of promising, I recently brought it to a rehearsal for him to test drive and it was love at first strum.

 

[adouglas]

In all seriousness, what would this world come to if people didn't take FULL responsibility for their actions?

Take a look around you, pal.

 

[kylierider]

If I damaged someone else's instrument, even by accident, I'd pay for 100 percent of the repair. Period. No questions, no hassles, even if the owner offered to split it.

You break it, you pay for it.

'cause that's how I roll.

I CERTAINLY wouldn't cause band drama over a measly $35. Drama sucks and is not worth anyone's time.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

 

[CFA]

Personally, if it was my bass, it'd be full price or a beating. Same as if I knocked over someone else instrument and damaged it, and they wanted me to pay for repairs, I would (I'd also offer as soon as they knew).

Personally, I wouldn't care if I knocked over a guitar that was leaned against a wall, or an amp, or on a stand. I knew, or should have known, it was there, and should have been careful around it.

In short, I'd be backing the guitarist if I were drawn into it... and probably if I wasn't, as I'd be thinking about if it were mine. The best thing I can think of is think about what you'd want if it were yours, and side with whoever is the best musician, or whoever you agree with the most

 

[Manfloozy]

So my problem is with the email and tone... That's not so cool... But then again is a friendship and band harmony worth $35? I'll send a check if it's that big a deal. just my arrogant opinion.