ok now im really friggen sick of this guitar

[puppiesonacid]

im going nuts with my petrucci. it just is not up to snuff in the tuning stability department. i do a dive and its out? WTF!!!!!!!!!!! lubed, proper neck relief, this is seriously BS. I'm done with this thing if it cant be fixed. as soon as i find a friggen box its off to the factory.


oh by the way .. that pinging i was tlaking about... wasnt the nut... it was the piezo saddle on the G string. It kinks out slightly when moving the trem.... OMG!!!!!! what do i have to lube every friggen thing on this guitar? ITS BRAND NEW FOR GOD'S SAKE!!! grrrrrr....

you k now...im literally heartbroken that my guitar is being out performed by an ibanez prestige that my friend jsut bought. if its not fixable its gone, end of story, i can't deal with it. its messing my confidence up so much. its like there just this bad vibe about it or somthing.


the guitar sounds and plays great... but as soon as i dive or slap a harmonic and pull it or lower it... wham... out of tune... yes i have lubed it twice now in less than 2 days. i don't want to play a friggen ibanez again. i mean i dig their edge system but i got burned out on all the stuff with it. i just wanted somthing more natural but still just as effective. The demo petrucci i played had none NONE of these problems and i made sure to beat the hell out of that tremolo jsut to be sure. maybe mine jsut happens to be a turd.

maybe it needs a new nut? Also i noticed somthing about the nut, its friggen SOFT!!! hello? why is the material for a nut SOFT? i mean i know they are going to have some plasticity but come on this thing gets marked up with the slightest pressure. i propped up the trem to pop the strings out for lubing the slots and put one in between two slots and it left a dent! i dont get it. if its graphite i would be harder. ive bought trem nuts before and they were always hard as hell.


i wish it was all peachy keen over here but ... man does this suck!!!! I BOUGHT THIS GUITAR BECUASE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO PERFORM, NOT JUST LOOK PRETTY!!! if i wanted problems i would have bought a harmony guitar from sears, or a peavey raptor haha seriously though not that im comparing the petrucci with those guitars but its just killing me. i dont have the cash to send it out right now, let alone a box to ship and i just don't feel like this should be happening. maybe im too picky but i just thought that EB was supposed to be the best and the one i tried was. couldnt buy that one because i was broke at the time.

why me you know? i thought it would solve my hang ups with double locking trems but im finding myself wanting to run back to an ibanez and i DONT WANT TO BECAUSE IT DOESNT COMPARE TO THE TONE THAT THE EB'S HAVE IMHO.

sorry for the rant its just rediculous though... i've jsut wanted to smash it but hahahaha i would be more nuts than i am now.


God bless,

Tony

 

[JDouglee]

Whoa dude, calm down. A piezo saddle can be easily obtained from EB...they can ship it to ya quick. I had to do that awhile back.

Are you stretching your strings? Is it one string in particular or the whole guitar goes out?

 

[puppiesonacid]

i dont think i should have to do that kind of serious work on a guitar of this price and quality. yes, i stretched the strings and all of that. the top end seems more susceptable to detuning or sharpening than the low end for some reason. sometimes it all goes out a little. i kinda had a feeling that i would regret spending so much money on a guitar....i dont even want it anymore...any takers?


- tony

 

[JDouglee]

Replacing a saddle is no big deal. A screwdriver & 3 minutes & you're done.

99% of tuning problems are at the nut. I can't speak to the Graphite stuff you're using, but 3 in One Oil works wonders for me. And I have a crapload of different guitars with various bridges, nut materials etc.

Maybe try stretching the string, dumping the bar, then tuning. If you're used to locking systems, a non locking nut takes some getting used to. I know, I was a dedicated Floyd user for years.

If your still having probelms go to EB

 

[Hookpunch]

Tony I tried to find the thread where you gave the specifics on the guitar, did you buy it at a store?

If you did they should set it up to your satisfaction, I don't think there is a need for you to do the work yourself.

If after a new set-up you still have problems - then yeah I would contact EBMM.

 

[koogie2k]

Hey man, I can sympathise with you on this. I have two petrucci's and never had a problem with any one of them. But, I would be through the roof too. These bad boys are expensive you should not have the problems you are having. However, I am 100% sure the boys/gals at EB will make it right for you. It is frustrating, but in the end, I think you will be happy and I am sure EB will break their back to make you happy. We still love you and you can rant and rave here all you want! I hope it works out for you and soon. Good luck.

 

[Jimi D]

I'm with koogie2k on this one, pup... ship it off to EB and let them deal with it now - you've done all you could, now turn it over to them and let them do what the do so well. They'll do the best they can to fix it all for you. Have faith, have patience, have a beer... It will come out all right if you keep your cool.

 

[KungFu Grip]

Sometimes you get a guitar you just have issues with. The nice thing about EBMM is that you can get them to fix it.

I had a Fender Custom Shop 63 Telecaster for about 2 months. Had serious bridge alignment issues. I tried to contact them about it and they were just flat out impossible to contact. When I did contact them, they said it was "normal for a hand-made instrument". I sold the piece of garbage two weeks later on ebay.

Sucks that this happened to you, but you can still get it resolved.

 

[ex3.8]

I feel your pain dude...
I have had my silo for 8 months now. I had to bring it to a Luthier to have him do a fret dressing, go to 10-46's for the neck to respond adequatly. I rarely use the trem Cuz it goes out of tune if i use it to hard. I still have an overall buzz here and there on the neck.....
Before i brought it to the luthier, the tech at the store where i bought it, (STEVES IN MONTREAL) said those awfull words........
"THATS THE BEST I CAN DO" (I hate it when they say that)
EB has offered to take it back, have a look, bla bla,bla
wich is great but....... From Canada the cost and time was way too much for my taste.

Here are my (personal only) thoughts.
Bottom line. When i pay $1700.00 for a guitar i expect a lot....
Maybe too much? the guitar plays fantastic sure but. Is it a special instrument as much as the sacrifices we made to get it make us think it is?
Do we have a right to expect this much out of a guitar?
I saw Kim Mitchell a couple of times in the last 6mths. He has a new Axis. He does not use the trem, and can only go 2 songs before it needs retuning !!!
Now, if a 40 year veteran rock guitar icon needs a tech to retune his guitars why wouldn't we!
I sort of gave up for now in expecting perfection out of a man maid thing. While i write this it just occured to me!!!!!
The only thing i haven't tryed is to change string brands!?!?!?!?!?!
maybe i will....

 

[bing4sons]

Tony,

Did you not keep the box that the guitar was shipped in?

I've already told you my personal experience. EB did a great job of getting the issues with my guitar corrected. I'm sure they'll do the same for you. Give them a chance. I know it's frustrating, but in 2 weeks time you'll have your axe back and the frustration will be over. Go ahead and ship it to Jon and let him get it right.

You're not doing yourself or EB any good at this point.

Bing

 

[KungFu Grip]

I saw Kim Mitchell a couple of times in the last 6mths. He has a new Axis. He does not use the trem, and can only go 2 songs before it needs retuning !!!
Now, if a 40 year veteran rock guitar icon needs a tech to retune his guitars why wouldn't we!

Whenever I hear something like this, I often question what the hell the player is thinking. In my extensive experience with instruments $500 and up, there has never been a time that I couldn't keep an instrument in tune with a couple of small adjustments and repairs. They just aren't that complicated.

If Kim Mitchell can't keep his guitar in tune for more than 2 songs, maybe he needs to fire his guitar tech and quit playing so meat-fisted.

 

[howling wolf]

Man no matter how good a rep or the cost of the instrument sometimes ya just get a lemon
I had bought a brand new $1600 USA jackson that had some very serious probs,
that was the LAST jackson i will ever own!LOL!!!
took it back and bought a used $450 wolfgang special and never looked back! the cheapo wolf made the jackson feel,sound like a import!

 

[Jimi D]

Man no matter how good a rep or the cost of the instrument sometimes ya just get a lemon

Ain't that the truth. I owned one of the original Gibson Joe Perry Les Pauls and that guitar was a complete turkey - just a mass of problems with frets, inlays, the nut, the bridge... a disaster. I still shudder every time I think of it.

 

[puppiesonacid]

listen guys, thanks for hearing me out and talkin' to me. I was up late last night and i was just so frustrated when i wrote that post. im not trying to disrespect EB you know? I konw sometimes you get lemons hahah it sucks. You know im really proud to have an EB and tell people that because not a lot of people play them except for bassists around here. this forum rocks... everyone is a real player and knows what there talking about... no room for bs or ignorance just willingness to assist, inform and encourage.


i will be sure to keep ya posted

God bless,

Tony

 

[lock-ny]

I had some issues when I grabbed my silhouette special, and I sent it back to MM and they replaced the body no questions asked, they even offered me any new body color I wanted, how do you like them apples fender and jackson! -

 

[Warg Master]

That does suck...good luck on getting it all fixed!

 

[simplesimon]

I am glad I am not the only one that has had problems with Fender. I bought a Custom Shop reissue. Right out of the box it was a piece of crap. They gave me every excuse in the book. Handmade instrument, blah blah blah. My fave was that it was a climate issue. I told the guy they need to start zoning their guitar like in a seed book. That way I will know which instrument I can buy for my zone. FENDER SUCKS!!!! I ended up paying for a fret job myself. Brand new instrument. That makes no sense. I told the guy at Fender that was the last time they would ever see money from me. I am sure that they could care less. The dealer that I bought it from told me I would have problems with them from the start. That is sad. Point is, it could be worse. EB will fix, I could not get anything out of Fender, at all. I am looking at a Silo with 3 single coils, though. So it worked out for EBMM.

I have a Steve Morse and right out of the box, PERFECT! I have had a few problems here and there, but I play 3 nights a week. So considering the mileage it has on it, I am proud. Hang in there puppie, maybe we could start a fund for ya.... the save Puppie's sanity fund! We can all donate for your shipping and get you a box.

 

[OrangeChannel]

I've had some total ****e taking instruments from the Big F. Had one of those old Japan made Floyd strats (like an Am std w/ the Orig Floyd). What a waste of money. Sounded like garbage and when ever you dropped the bar, the neck would pop like the truss was moving or it wasn't attached tightly. Even after tightening the screws. I was in like 9th grade at the time. That one sold quickly...

T....
On your Petrucci issues....where is the axe being stored? What kind of temps/ humidty do you have it exposed to? Environment says a lot.

In the case of my new one, I'm case storing it instead of stands when I don't play since I live in a basement apartment. When I move I might get some guitar hangers and wall display them (them meaning more MM's).