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Scraggy

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Hi,

I live in Canada, so I have a limited choice of dealer. Ordering cross-boarder void warranty... The nearest one has good inventory but it's more flavor of the moment... a very limited quantity. When I asked for ordering a specific bass, the salesman tells me there is an upcharge. Even if it's let say a trans red Sterling with Rosewood, which it's pretty common. I'm not talking Pearloid pickguard and matching headstock, just a simple bass wchich is normal. I really don't understand why there is an upcharge.

Is it because they're paying less when they order 20-30 instruments than a single one?
 

Steve Dude Barr

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Sounds more like a dealer policy to me. Every dealer is free to do as they wish. We charge an upfront deposit on a custom order but no upcharge and of course, you have to wait for it to be made unless we already have one in that specific color on order.
 

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Dr Stankface said:
Why not try and order from Jack? He may be able to hook you up. Not 100% sure beacuse you live in Canada though. Send him a PM.

Andrew


Sorry, but Jack and I can not sell outside the US.
 

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Steverino already spoke to this but just to add: the EBMM price sheets I've seen don't show any upcharge for a special order. So I'm guessing as well that it is specific to the dealer. Kinda uncool in my opinion.
 

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Scraggy said:
When I asked for ordering a specific bass, the salesman tells me there is an upcharge. Even if it's let say a trans red Sterling with Rosewood, which it's pretty common. I'm not talking Pearloid pickguard and matching headstock, just a simple bass wchich is normal. I really don't understand why there is an upcharge.

Some finishes are upcharges...trans red is not, though. You got me. Think about moving south and I'll hook you right up, man. That's about the best I can do. Every dealer is different (and we're about as different as it gets) but I really don't know why they'd want to charge you extra to order a standard bass....other than they've already paid for what's in the store and it's to their advantage, clearly, to sell what's already been paid for.

I can see that.
 

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Steve Dude Barr said:
Sorry, but Jack and I can not sell outside the US.

Now here's an interesting conundrum ... what would happen if GC, or you, or any other dealer, expanded into overseas operations. Would that mean you would only be allowed to sell MM guitars in your US branches ? Would you have to negotiate a differnt contract to take the other territories into account ??
 

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Can you not just nip across the border and buy one, pay the duty or slip back across in the dead of night?
I would have thought being closer geographically to the US it would have been easier. Here in the UK we have not probs like that.....just have to wait for shipments to cross the pond.

Is it time for a holiday chez Jacques?
 

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radiotrib said:
Now here's an interesting conundrum ... what would happen if GC, or you, or any other dealer, expanded into overseas operations. Would that mean you would only be allowed to sell MM guitars in your US branches ? Would you have to negotiate a differnt contract to take the other territories into account ??


I have enough conundrums on a daily basis just worrying about US sales but I would imagine that if a US based company such as GC expanded to other countries that they'd have to buy stock for those stores through the existing distribution network already established in those countries.


Anyone know what garages are currently renting for in the UK?
 

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How far from the states do you live? You could always drive to the nearest Guitar Center and get whatever you wanted.
 

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That sucks? How much is the upcharge? It can't be more than shipping from the states? 50 bucks? Just eat it and enjoy it.
 

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Hey yo!!!
Well, the store I work at here in Langley BC is just getting signed up as a dealer and we might be way out of the way from where you're at but give me a call and let's see if we can't put something together... I'll try to be a little bit of the Dude/Jack in the Great White North ! :D

here's the store's link:
www.act1music.com


peter
 

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maddog said:
Steverino already spoke to this but just to add: the EBMM price sheets I've seen don't show any upcharge for a special order. So I'm guessing as well that it is specific to the dealer. Kinda uncool in my opinion.
It's a reasonable bidness praktice but presented in a negative light. It's not really an 'UP'charge since it's not over list price. It's too bad they called it that. What it really is is a lesser discount. The best discount is on goods already in stock, and *that* is perfectly reasonable. It's called "Sell what you can see, rather than see what you can sell." The second half of that statement [see what you can sell] refers to things you can't see, meaning not in inventory therefor must be ordered. Not onl;y is discount usually better on items already in stock, but discounts are sometimes greatly increased for itms in stock for too long. That's called clearance sale pricing or overstock pricing.
 

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Steve Dude Barr said:
Sorry, but Jack and I can not sell outside the US.
WHat about a leasing plan? With a buyout. Same bottom line.

Say an ax sells for $1200 with a 1yr warrantee, and has a resale value or trade-in value of $700 in good condition, 1yr old. So the lease with $500 down is $50/mo for 12 months. The $500 up front covers 12 mo depreciation, the monthly payment buys down another $600 in one year.

After 12months there is $1100 paid against a $1200 bass. If the player turns it back in, the dealer now has only $100 into an ax he can sell used for several hundred or more. Or, the player can buy it out for about $200. The exact figure is not $200 but is actually the remaining $100 plus interest not [yet] paid on the running balance while the monthly payments were being made.

Since for the first 12 mo the dealer remains the actual owner, wouldn't the USA warrantee be in force, although if the leasee has been using it outside the USA, it must still be returned to the USA for any warrantee work.

My Bongo is only 5 month old. It's under warrantee. If my cousin in Cote St Luke, Quebec wants to use it, does that void my warrantee? What if I charge my cousin a security deposit when I lend it to him? Like $700 dollars up front? What if that is for only one weekend, but every additional month he wants to use it I charge him another $50 "for wear and tear"? Then one day it needs warrantee service so he sends it to me and I get that taken care of. EB doesn't ask me where the bass has been. It's my bass and I am turning it in for service.

If I am playing in Quebec, and my preamp fries, can I just ship it to EB from Quebec? Or do I hafta lug the dead ax back to NY and then ship it to EB? Is that an important technicality?

So ..... What if ???
 
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