OT- If you had the oportunity would you get one of the EVH Guitars on Ebay

[VinceV]

Thanks guys, I just wanted some opinions about them. No right no wrong. I think I'll just get a Luke in Radiance Red, how's that sound.

 

[PurpleSport]

I think I'll just get a Luke in Radiance Red, how's that sound.

NOW yer talkin'.....definitely money well spent!

 

[koogie2k]

(arms held open) VinceV, today....you are a made man! hehehhehe....just had to do it...heheheheh...

Charvel's are not bad. Price they are asking is. This is quite the gimmick they are using and I think it is unfair. Like I said earlier, I know of a guy who makes guitars literally by hand and they are worth the hefty price tag he asks. These do not qualify. It is a shame because if they were in reach monitarily, a bunch of cats would be slinging a Charvel EVH and not what they have now. I think it is an insult to the guitar buying community to ask for such price!

Now, the really sad part is.....people will buy these things thinking:

1. I will sound like EVH
2. I can play like EVH
3. EVH played this one
4. EVH painted this one
5. EVH touched this one
6. etc....etc....etc....

I find it angers me when a company will make these kind of guitars (asking insane prices) knowing it will dupe the un-informed into purchasing their wares. People tend to worship their idols to the point of putting them on a "godlike" stature that they will buy EVERYTHING they think will make them closer to their heroes. Jimmy Page Gibson at $25,000?!?!!? Jimmy better come over to my crib and vacuum my carpet and wash my 'Vet for that kind of cabbage!!

Hey, I like JP....but not enough to want to root through his garbage to see what he had for breakfast......and I would not pay $5,000 for one of his guitars even if he signed it..........well.......maybe

 

[nobozos]

Hey Vince, to answer your question, I'm not putting down the Charvel because it's a bolt on neck guitar. I was simply bringing up that fact to point out that it is extremely easy to produce. It doesn't require the extra time and energy to manufacture, therefore the cost is un-justified.

The EBMM/EVH guitars were nowhere near the price of the new Charvel production EVH guitars when they were new. Even now, as genuine collectors items, most EBMM/EVH guitars don't sell for what the list is on a new Charvel EVH.

Another thing that makes the EBMM/EVH worth it, and the Charvel not worth it, is the fact that the EBMM/EVH is THE Eddie Van Halen guitar. It has launched many immitators of the new body style. Before the EBMM/EVH, there was basically the Strat, Tele, Les Paul, and PRS body styles for solid body electric guitars. The EBMM/EVH created a whole new style, and that body style is identified with EVH, no matter what paint job you put on it. The only thing that makes the new Charvel EVH an EVH guitar is the paint job. Once you take that away, your paying Custom Shop prices for a Floyd equipped Fender strat with one humbucker and a different name on the headstock.

Now, would I like to have one? Hell yes! In fact, I would like to have the White/Black striped one. If I could buy one for about what they are worth, I would probably get it. I figure the production models to be worth about $900.00 in reality. Sure, they would list for $1399.00 or something new, but eventually be discounted to under a grand if they wanted to be realistic.

 

[Eddie Van Halen]

i may get a non striped one just to say i own one but the lack of the neck pickup is a real downer

 

[VinceV]

They aren't going to make a non striped version of the EVH with Fender Headstock. You could order a regular(pointy headstock) Charvel, but if you do that you could also add the neck pickup.

 

[Eddie Van Halen]

no i mean there are some that are striped by eddie himself, and some striped in the factory and I said i wouldnt buy one actually striped by eddie.

Or is the factory version 5K?!?!

 

[VinceV]

ALot of people seemed to be confused by these EVH ART SERIES GUITARS. There are going to be about 90 of the Hand Striped(by Eddie) and played in concert guitars, these are the ones on Ebay starting at $5150 but seem to be selling on average of about $15000. Then there are the "limited production" run of factory striped guitars, no one seems to know how long or how many there will be( I don't see them lasting that long, being that they have the Fender Headstock) these guitars are priced at around $3500 MSRP, and will have a street price of about $2600 even less if you know your dealer. And Last but not least there will be a RED/WHITE/Black Relic limited to less than 100 pieces(i believe it also comes with a COA), this guitar will have all wear marks/cigarette burns an exact replica of Eddies guitar. Now what heaadstock will be on it(or exactly which RWB guitar it will be a replica of. 5150? Frankenstrat?), no one seems to know yet and what will the price be again no one seems to know yet. I would guess the MSRP on those are probably gonna be around $5500.

 

[OrangeChannel]

They're selling the non eddie striped ones already they go for bout $3000 or so. They have the charvel stocks. If you look back Eddie Van Halen, only the red and white stripes had the Kramer hockey-stocks....the White and Black and Yllow and Black were Mighty Mite necks w/ Strat stocks attached to Boogie Body guitar bodies.

 

[Jimi D]

I'm in when they bring the common production model down to the same price as a new Wolf... That I'd pay, and that I think would be reasonable... If they think the paintjob's worth an arm'n'aleg, then they can just make me one with an arched, flamed maple top and I'll take that instead.

Charvel/FMIC can charge what they want for special edition/custom/limited production ones and that's expected - that's how the market's running nowadays - but when they want to charge me twice as much for Eddie's new bolt-on production axe as someone else was charging for his old bolt-on production axe, then I say they're gouging. Which, knowing Fender, is pretty much to be expected, as well...

 

[VinceV]

I'm in when they bring the common production model down to the same price as a new Wolf... That I'd pay, and that I think would be reasonable... If they think the paintjob's worth an arm'n'aleg, then they can just make me one with an arched, flamed maple top and I'll take that instead.

Charvel/FMIC can charge what they want for special edition/custom/limited production ones and that's expected - that's how the market's running nowadays - but when they want to charge me twice as much for Eddie's new bolt-on production axe as someone else was charging for his old bolt-on production axe, then I say they're gouging. Which, knowing Fender, is pretty much to be expected, as well...

I'm with you the production models need to have a street price of about $1500, and that is only to be generous for the paintjob and the fender Headstock. besides that there really isn't anything special about these. No birdseye neck, no extra cost for figured wood. I'm sure they are high quality guitars, but they are a little overpriced(but then again they are a limited run right?). I suspect that they must have more in stock for his Sig guitar as those striped ones have very limited appeal(how many people are gonna want to use them live?). I think you will end up seeing the wolfgang or a modification of it made by Charvel. It would be cool if Charvel could continue with the Wolfgang Custom Shop idea. Except the cool thing about the Peavey shop was the quick delivery time(at one point it was less than 2 months), if the Jackson Custom Shop is any indication expect 18 month waiting times, and that sucks.

 

[OrangeChannel]

I'm with you the production models need to have a street price of about $1500, and that is only to be generous for the paintjob and the fender Headstock. besides that there really isn't anything special about these. No birdseye neck, no extra cost for figured wood. I'm sure they are high quality guitars, but they are a little overpriced(but then again they are a limited run right?). I suspect that they must have more in stock for his Sig guitar as those striped ones have very limited appeal(how many people are gonna want to use them live?). I think you will end up seeing the wolfgang or a modification of it made by Charvel. It would be cool if Charvel could continue with the Wolfgang Custom Shop idea. Except the cool thing about the Peavey shop was the quick delivery time(at one point it was less than 2 months), if the Jackson Custom Shop is any indication expect 18 month waiting times, and that sucks.

There was like a 15 page thread about this months back....I gt a friend out there who submitted upwards fo 15 designs for the new EVH Charvel sig model.....that's the last I heard on the issue. Ed was supposed to choose one, apparently Winter NAMM will hold what's in store over there.

 

[Jimi D]

There was like a 15 page thread about this months back....I gt a friend out there who submitted upwards fo 15 designs for the new EVH Charvel sig model.....that's the last I heard on the issue. Ed was supposed to choose one, apparently Winter NAMM will hold what's in store over there.

Sure, that sounds about right... Then NAMM will come and Eddie will be there telling everyone how HE designed HIS new guitar based on his deeply personal and evolved vision of what the perfect electric guitar should be, and that he had to go to Charvel because Peavey wouldn't consider changing the Wolf, or couldn't build 'em fast enough, or weren't responsive enough to his fans who wanted one, or couldn't build 'em to high enough quality, or whatever... Then he'll fall off the stage and everyone will applaud... or is that appalled?...

 

[OrangeChannel]

DOn't forget to mention his 2 hour lateness due to the fact that he wants to drink multiple bottles of chardonnay.

 

[Eddie Van Halen]

you guys are meanies to eddie! lol

 

[nobozos]

I suspect that they must have more in stock for his Sig guitar as those striped ones have very limited appeal(how many people are gonna want to use them live?).

Limited appeal is right.

I stated in an earlier post on this subject about what Charvel required if you wanted to carry this line.

I got the info from the owner of my local guitar shop after NAMM. He told me that he was approached by Charvel to be one of the two dealers in Illinois to carry the EVH Art Series line. In order to be that dealer, they would be required to purchase 6 of the EVH Art Series guitars, two of each color scheme. In addition, they would have to carry at least 3 of the other Charvel guitars if memory serves me correctly.

Now, they wanted to carry the line, but they had a decision to make. They realized that probably 1 or maybe 2 of the guitars would sell immediately, but the rest would probably hang on their wall for a LONG, LONG time considering the price. Another thing for them to consider was, what if one color is popular, but the others aren't? Do they keep buying the White/Black striped ones as they sell, while the others just hang there?

In the end, they realized that the price on the guitars was just too high for a retro 80s niche guitar. Let's face it, unfortunately, the relavance of Edward Van Halen is lost on the current generation of guitarists. They will go out and spend $3500 on a PRS because that's what the guitarist from their favorite band plays.

 

[kbaim]

DOn't forget to mention his 2 hour lateness due to the fact that he wants to drink multiple bottles of chardonnay.

...or as Eddie likes to call it, practice.

 

[koogie2k]

 

[OrangeChannel]

Ok in that case I like to frequent establishments on Fridays between 4:30-8 PM that encourage double the practice....publicly.

 

[Eddie Van Halen]

nobodys going to play those striped guitars at live shows...i think charvel will aventually make an anix/wolfgang-ish guitar