Off Topic *ping* (or should that be *oink*?) Bovinehost

[bovinehost]

The "war to end all wars", WWI, killed approximately 18 million people over the course of four years.

The global death toll from the 1918 flu was long pegged at 20 million, but most experts now think that grossly low. They talk of 50 million, perhaps 100 million.

And in 1918, people weren't flying all over the globe, vacationing in foreign countries, having layovers in Mexico City while on their way to Argentina and so on.

Just something to think about.

 

[five7]

Lets get back to thinking about our next musicman!

 

[the unrepentant]

I have a feeling that the Swine Flu "epidemic" won't be any worse than SARS or Avian Flu. It's unfortunate that anyone would die because of it, but the media really does blow things out of proportion.

I'm gonna go wash my hands now...

+ the 1, what did avian flu really do? It killed a couple of chickens. Yes i understand that it destroyed some people's livelihood, i'm not sure if it killed anyone or what, but the media sure did a good job of blowing it WAY out of proportion, and being that pigs can't fly, i'm not too worried, being from the UK and all, but we'll see. There's always a big health scare every few years, am i the only one that's not incredibly worried? Though it is our own fault.... being incredibly over-populated and all.

 

[Aussie Mark]

+ the 1, what did avian flu really do? It killed a couple of chickens. Yes i understand that it destroyed some people's livelihood, i'm not sure if it killed anyone or what

Avian flu killed 70+ people in Indonesia when I was living there in 2005-06. Most of those who died had chicken coops in their backyards, so they were in the thick of it so to speak. I'm not sure what the worldwide death toll was, I'm sure you could Google it, from memory it was a few hundred or thereabouts.

 

[bkrumme]

Avian flu killed 70+ people in Indonesia when I was living there in 2005-06. Most of those who died had chicken coops in their backyards, so they were in the thick of it so to speak. I'm not sure what the worldwide death toll was, I'm sure you could Google it, from memory it was a few hundred or thereabouts.

This is exactly the point, though. A FEW HUNDRED is nowhere near the thousands who die from regular flu EACH YEAR. This is just a big media scare.

Check out this article: http://www.tricities.com/tri/news/local/article/regular_flu_kills_36000_americans_a_year/23536/

 

[five7]

Yobama and lieden are trying to push health reform thru.

 

[bovinehost]

We can talk about the flu, but let's not get political.

Thanks in advance,

Jack

 

[maddog]

just wash your damn hands with warm water and soap. Don't even need the anti-bacterial stuff. (psst, the flu is a virus. )

 

[silverburst]

Avian flu killed 70+ people in Indonesia when I was living there in 2005-06. Most of those who died had chicken coops in their backyards, so they were in the thick of it so to speak. I'm not sure what the worldwide death toll was, I'm sure you could Google it, from memory it was a few hundred or thereabouts.

H1N1 has a high morbidity rate, but the avian flu had a higher mortality rate. A lot less people caught the avian flu, but a higher percentage of those who did get it died.

Then again, everybody dies eventually.

 

[Powman]

I got lucky. I was in Thunder Bay Ontario on business and I heard they had a surplus of H1N1 vaccine there. They had a vaccination clinic that day at the University. So I lined up, 15 minutes later I got my shot.

 

[five7]

Everybody I know has gotten it in the last few weeks. So far, so good. I pray everyone else is all right.

 

[Psycho Ward]

I only eat "cured" ham, I'm just say'n.

 

[cellkirk74]

media goes crazy here too. Very interesting is that some people working for a big pharmaceutical company were adviced by their company not to get the vaccination. I think this statement is clear.

also check out how many people die from the average flu every year in your country. It is a lot more...

 

[Bart B]

Producing vaccines, even if they are completely ineffective, are considered to be a great way to recover world economy...profit is just such a important factor,..

money is, too..
I remember people paying extreme amounts of money for some tamiflu when there was this media buzz about the bird flu in 2006, this terrible individualism

Ofcourse, it's good to see people reacting and becoming aware at this stage...SHOULD the virus become more dangerous and that everyone's getting a chance to be 'saved' by injections

 

[bovinehost]

Everybody I know has gotten it in the last few weeks. So far, so good. I pray everyone else is all right.

I'm hacking up sneakers and little fat children and can no longer seem to control my body's temperature.

But yeah, those other guys are probably right. Government in league with pharmaceutical companies, evil cabals, the Illuminati, blah blah blah.

 

[bkrumme]

They say the people at risk are the ones with pre-existing conditions. Isn't that true of the "normal" flu virus also?

At least it's not the Spanish Flu Epidemic like in 1918: The 1918 Influenza Pandemic

 

[TheStiffness]

Wash your hands. Don't pick your nose. You'll be fine.

 

[phatduckk]

a few people at work got it. they said it was pretty crappy for a few days but theyre all fine now.

 

[tiffles]

i can't pick my nose??? this whole thing is worse than i thought.

 

[bbernard]

My son, 15, had it. Knocked him for a loop for the better part of a week. Scary because he has asthma. On the other hand he is in great shape (wrestling, football, etc.) so I guess that helped. Infections in the lung following the flu can be a killer (literally).

When he went to the doctor they said 99% its H1n1...they assumed if you had the "flu" it was H1N1 based on what they see coming through their doors. We had our son tested and it was confirmed H1N1.

A 15 year old boy died from H1N1 in our county. He was an athlete as well. I don't know s**t about government conspiracies but I grieve for that kids family.