Question Please explain...

[Grand Wazoo]

Why were Subs discontinued if they were so popular?

 

[Big Poppa]

Motoman...Im happy to answer your question but as a new guy you should dive into the search funtion and you will get the whole story with a lot of dialogue.

Short form...we were losing our asses making them.

 

[mynan]

http://www.ernieball.com/forums/music-man-basses/30716-question-week-big-poppa-post485067.html

 

[Big Poppa]

thanks bryan!

 

[the unrepentant]

Real shame but fair play if you were losing money BP. besides, they might start appreciating wildly in 30 years time!

 

[Grand Wazoo]

Fair point Mr. Ball and thank you and mynan for answering, I fully appreciate your point of view, it is however a sad loss but hey, to keep your ship afloat you had to do what you had to do.

I am keeping my eyes peeled on ebay for a SUB bass to come up for sale on these (UK) shores, so if anyone spots one please do tell, it will go nicely with my collection right between the EBMM SR5 and the 2 vintage PRS's

I tried a SUB at the London Bass Centre a few years back right after I bought my SR5 from them and I was sooooo impressed with both the sound and the quality of the instrument but I only bookmarked it in my purchase favourites and later when I was ready to get one, I found out that they were extinct.


Polite request... my name is not Motoman, not Moto,. not Hello Moto, just CaptMoto thank you!

 

[the unrepentant]

There are a few on right now actually.

SUB 5 - bit overpriced though

SUB 4 - again a bit overpriced but could be worth watching if you're the only bidder

SUB sterling - nice looking and very rare on these shores!

SUB 5 - pretty decent price there if you want a fiver

SUB 4 - red, looks sweet in the right light (i have one of them) but this one is well overpriced

You're looking for about £300-£400 for a good price, and they do come up, i got mine for £350 last christmas pretty much mint

 

[Grand Wazoo]

There are a few on right now actually.

SUB 5 - bit overpriced though

SUB 4 - again a bit overpriced but could be worth watching if you're the only bidder

SUB sterling - nice looking and very rare on these shores!

SUB 5 - pretty decent price there if you want a fiver

SUB 4 - red, looks sweet in the right light (i have one of them) but this one is well overpriced

You're looking for about £300-£400 for a good price, and they do come up, i got mine for £350 last christmas pretty much mint

Thank you very much, I will certainly be watching that SUB 5, if the price doesn't go too silly I might treat myself to an early Xmas pressie.

You the man! Cheers

don't nobody bid on that please! (joke, game on!! )

 

[oli@bass]

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[ronnyG]

I have a mint condition teal SUB 4. But it's vaulted away, I have a hunch those may be desirable one day..well hopefully, I couldn't even get 400 bucks for it when I was trying to sell it...with a hard case no less..go figure this economy.

 

[the unrepentant]

Thank you very much, I will certainly be watching that SUB 5, if the price doesn't go too silly I might treat myself to an early Xmas pressie.

You the man! Cheers

don't nobody bid on that please! (joke, game on!! )

No worries mate, i'm always on the lookout

 

[Baird]

I never understood why SUBs appreciated in value a couple of years ago.

I sold my passive white SUB 4 for around $650 or so last year and I say good riddance! Don't get me wrong, my SUB was a great bass for the $$$ but for a few bucks more you can get into a used (almost a new one) Stingray.

The active electronics, MUCH better finish, nicer looking headstock finish, better pickguard, etc. of Stingrays basses are much better IMO than the SUB I had. The SUB was a quality instrument and the fit/finish was better than most other manufacturer's MIA basses.

Of course, people pay $4000+ for 60's Hofner Beatle basses too.... they are definately not buying them for their superior construction but their percieved scarcity and/or potential to appreciate in value.

 

[RobertB]

Why were Subs discontinued if they were so popular?

They were popular and poplar.

 

[the unrepentant]

I never understood why SUBs appreciated in value a couple of years ago.

I sold my passive white SUB 4 for around $650 or so last year and I say good riddance! Don't get me wrong, my SUB was a great bass for the $$$ but for a few bucks more you can get into a used (almost a new one) Stingray.

Maybe in the USA! You're looking at double the price over here! Sometimes less sometimes more, but i'm pretty confident that the combined worth of BOTH of my SUB basses wouldn't equate to one stingray (probably because one of them was hashed together by myself), though i would like a stingray one day.

 

[Grand Wazoo]

Maybe in the USA! You're looking at double the price over here! Sometimes less sometimes more, but i'm pretty confident that the combined worth of BOTH of my SUB basses wouldn't equate to one stingray (probably because one of them was hashed together by myself), though i would like a stingray one day.

Young man start saving up, coz in a couple of years I might get me an HH SR5 and would be more than happy to sell you my present SR5 H in mint conditions. Since you are in UK I'll even deliver it to you, aye?

 

[ronnyG]

I never understood why SUBs appreciated in value a couple of years ago.

I sold my passive white SUB 4 for around $650 or so last year and I say good riddance! Don't get me wrong, my SUB was a great bass for the $$$ but for a few bucks more you can get into a used (almost a new one) Stingray.

The active electronics, MUCH better finish, nicer looking headstock finish, better pickguard, etc. of Stingrays basses are much better IMO than the SUB I had. The SUB was a quality instrument and the fit/finish was better than most other manufacturer's MIA basses.

Of course, people pay $4000+ for 60's Hofner Beatle basses too.... they are definately not buying them for their superior construction but their percieved scarcity and/or potential to appreciate in value.

I wish I would have sold it a few years ago then..now with this economy it seems to be a buyers market..can't get top dollar right now unless you get very lucky.

Now my SUB does have active electronics (optional) and I actually like the textured finish, painted neck, headstock and diamond plate looking pickguard..I am one of those that like different oddball things. But it does not play or sound as nice as my 90SR4 did, thats for sure but I feel it is a good value considering other basses in the same price range. And my fingers are crossed that they appreciate again.

 

[the unrepentant]

Young man start saving up, coz in a couple of years I might get me an HH SR5 and would be more than happy to sell you my present SR5 H in mint conditions. Since you are in UK I'll even deliver it to you, aye?

As kind as your offer is, i'd really be looking for a 4 string, the SR5 necks are a bit chunky for me, but thanks anyway!

I wish I would have sold it a few years ago then..now with this economy it seems to be a buyers market..can't get top dollar right now unless you get very lucky.

Now my SUB does have active electronics (optional) and I actually like the textured finish, painted neck, headstock and diamond plate looking pickguard..I am one of those that like different oddball things. But it does not play or sound as nice as my 90SR4 did, thats for sure but I feel it is a good value considering other basses in the same price range. And my fingers are crossed that they appreciate again.

Yeah i know what you mean, i think the finish looks really nice in the right light and the painted black neck/headstock goes really well with the body colour on my red one, though i did have to put a black PG on, looks sleek and sexy now