question about music man axis?

[kuna]

hello I'm new here.I am guitar builder I want to build my own Music man guitar,it's sort of challenge to me.Only problem is that I don't have any profesional draw of that guitar ,drew in some PC program like Corel.I really hope so that there is some man who has it.Sorry for my bad english

Thanks

 

[TNT]

Kuna,

I think you mean well - you chose a Musicman!!

However, I think you may have some legal copyright issues as well as other building issues in your desire. You may want to check with CS first.

By the way, the Musicman guitar is "unmatchable"!! Hey, if you buy one, you'll have the "genuine" article!!

 

[kuna]

I think most of you live in America and you have more opportunities to buy that guitar.I live in Croatia,there is Music Man sort of expensive guitar.I don't have 3500$ to buy it.3500$ is the price of that guitar here.

 

[leftyguitarblue]

Hi Welcome!

There is a forum member from Croatia on here that has a John Petrucci Musicman. His name is ivanmihaljevic Send him a private message and see where he got his from.

p.s. trying to copy an Ernie ball Music Man would be like trying to repaint the Sistine Chapel blindfolded with chopsticks. You just can't do it!!

 

[brasco68]

Not to question your skills, but aside from the copyright implications of what you are talking about the simple fact is....if you want a Ernie Ball Music Man guitar...it has to be built by Ernie Ball Music Man.

Take Leftys suggestion and contact Ivan.

I hope you get what you looking for.

 

[TonyEVH5150]

Having tried building one, and failing miserably at it, I've found it's best to buy the guitar you want instead of trying to build it. Why make a copy of something that's out there and perfectly made now???? Plus, you'll spend the same amount of money on the already-built guitar as you would in wood, parts, and labor on the copy.

Seriously, buy an Axis. Don't copy it.

Also, Check out eBay. The used market on these is really good. I know the conversion rate can be wacky, but the US dollar is weak, and that spells good times for those in the UK and Europe buying from the US.

 

[Astrofreq]

Buy a guitar from the US and have it shipped to you. You'll get a great price on it and it will play better.

Like this one for instance: http://www.ernieball.com/forums/music-man-guitars/20928-music-man-guitars-sale-7.html#post475430

 

[koogie2k]

I am not so sure on the copyright law here. I am no lawyer and Wonderdog does a magnifico job of it.

However, if he is building a guitar that closely resembles the Axis, and does not sell it or advertise it as a genuine article EBMM Axis...is it illegal? Peavey did it...so do other makers. I think all companies have emulated the shape (ala strat body) to some point.

I think it is great to build a guitar. Cudbucket built an awesome looking guitar and if I remember correctly, some forumites have seen it and said it was well made. It had a strat looking body...should he be punished for making something he did for personal use only? I am not sure.

But, I don't think it is a good idea to ask for the actual drawings and specs of an EBMM Axis.

I am interested in a definitive answer. Not "forum lawyers"...maybe Wonderdog could chime in or send me a PM. Just curious.

Kuna, Welcome to the Addiction. Stick around. This is a great place.

 

[beej]

Picking up on Koogs' wise words ...

The 4+2 headstock is trademarked, so you can't market and sell it. Though I'm sure you can build whatever you like for your personal use.

Building a guitar is a lot of fun, so all the best in doing it. However unless you're really good at it, it's going to be very difficult to replicate the quality you get with EBMM. Especially the neck- the Axis neck is very 'broken in' feeling, and that's something you're going to have a tough time getting with a home-made job. My two cents.

 

[TNT]

To each is his own, but I personally do not think it is a good idea to encourage the "copy building" of a company's product. That's why the company is in business in the first place.

The truth is you CAN'T do it legally (trademark infringement)! Be it a hobby builder or a guitar manufacturer, it is NOT allowed.

One case in point: Anyone here follow the PRS vs. Gibson (Gibson Les Paul vs. the PRS single cut)??

One case in point: A hobby Ebay seller was doing "EVH graphics" on red converse tennis shoes (guess what he received in the mail??)

Again, buy the genuine article Axis - no getting around it!!

 

[beej]

It wouldn't be trademark infringement if you build a copy for yourself. You just can't market/sell it in the area where the trademark is enforced (so once you build it, you can't sell it on eBay). And I believe only the headstock design is trademarked, not the body shapes.

I don't think it's a bad idea to learn to build a guitar- it's educational and how many got their first start at something greater. It is wrong to rip off somebody's patents or trademarks and profit from them, but that's not usually what the hobbyist does.

 

[ivanmihaljevic]

Pa jel to kuna92 s glazbenog foruma?

 

[John Denner]

AXis in Croatia

Nice save Ivan!

How are things going on your new CD?

 

[JeffreyB]

yeah, Ivan...haven't seen you around lately...any sneek peaks at your solo stuff???

I still owe you a t-shirt...i haven't forgotten!

 

[Sub1 Zero]

Buy a guitar from the US and have it shipped to you. You'll get a great price on it and it will play better.

Like this one for instance: http://www.ernieball.com/forums/music-man-guitars/20928-music-man-guitars-sale-7.html#post475430

This man is right on. And lots of us here are willing to help get it to you, if need be

 

[Tone?]

Hey man,

my take on it is, after building a few parts guitars for myself it is a pretty much big waste of money and time. But that is just me. Others may have different opinions on this.

Companies like EB have more resources than you or i could any day, so getting it right would be real tough on first try. Which means that you would almost for sure pay alot more money than the darn thing costs in your country.

Look for a used one before trying to copy it, is my opinion. It will save you time and money, plus frustration.

Besides that, one person copying a guitar is ok in my book. Big fat hairy deal.

cheers

also, one reason for actually buying the real deal is that the workmanship, ergonomics and tone are really something for which to own an original.