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dan desy
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fogman said:
I have a Micro Cube with an acoustic setting; I don't know if it's the same, but I guess it must be. I don't think it does well with piezos. I think it was more designed towards making magnetic pickups sound acoustic (and at that it also sucks). Besides that, those are great little, cheap amps!
dan desy
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Hey, it's your thread, so feel free to derail it all you want 
I love the Mirco cube. It has 5 or 6 usable amp models, from clean JC, grittyFender and Vox to high gain recto, and I think they're all very useful. I have pretty limited use of mine, as I tend to use my Road King all the time, but the MC is so portable. You can get a good 20 hours out of 6 AA batteries, but it also comes with an AC adapter.
I would expect the Cube 30 and 60 to be even better. I know they're way more flexible, allowing you to have two tones (clean and other) on tap with the right footswitch. The MC doesn't have all the bells and whistles, but it sure has the tones at the right price.
I love the Mirco cube. It has 5 or 6 usable amp models, from clean JC, grittyFender and Vox to high gain recto, and I think they're all very useful. I have pretty limited use of mine, as I tend to use my Road King all the time, but the MC is so portable. You can get a good 20 hours out of 6 AA batteries, but it also comes with an AC adapter.
I would expect the Cube 30 and 60 to be even better. I know they're way more flexible, allowing you to have two tones (clean and other) on tap with the right footswitch. The MC doesn't have all the bells and whistles, but it sure has the tones at the right price.
dwf1004
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...stop worrying about amps, fogger, and focus on getting the guitar first? (hint hint)
SteveB
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Fog,
I don't own a Micro Cube, but I have other processors etc which have 'acoustic' settings where the circuitry tries to emulate an acoustic. (Which is what the piezo is also doing.. albeit much better.) If you combine the piezo output with one of these acoustic simulators, it sounds awful.
Really, the piezo output is just better suited for a full-range sound system such as a PA system, keyboard amp, or one of the good acoustic amps (a la Fishman loudbox). Normal electric guitar amps are just not optimal for the output of the piezo, although it is passable in some cases, it's just not ideal.
I don't own a Micro Cube, but I have other processors etc which have 'acoustic' settings where the circuitry tries to emulate an acoustic. (Which is what the piezo is also doing.. albeit much better.) If you combine the piezo output with one of these acoustic simulators, it sounds awful.
Really, the piezo output is just better suited for a full-range sound system such as a PA system, keyboard amp, or one of the good acoustic amps (a la Fishman loudbox). Normal electric guitar amps are just not optimal for the output of the piezo, although it is passable in some cases, it's just not ideal.
dan desy
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SteveB said:
Steve, the piezo saddles don't emulate acoustic sound. they capture the acoustic sound of the strings. Big difference in my opinion, at least.
Best bet (in my book, at least) for acoustic amp is a SWR Strawberry Blonde - about $300 used for a nice one. I had one, sold it and have been regretting it ever since... Besides sounding great, I loved the XLR output, and the fact that I could use it as an acoustic monitor on stage.
SteveB
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dan desy said:
Hey, I'm okay with a difference of opinion.
Doesn't the piezo do the same job as a magnetic pickup except that it uses vibrations from crystals instead of magnets as its input? (That's not rhetorical.. I really am asking!)
kbaim
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dan desy said:
I couldn't agree more with this.
That acoustic setting sounds awful, piezo or mag...though I wonder if it sounds better with the larger speaker in the 30 or 60?
I have to agree with Steve B. I own the Cube 30 and when it comes to practicing or getting ideas down quickly, I have never owned a better amp for this purpose. The Cube 30 truly is everything a modeling/practice amp should be. And it does it much better then Line 6 and all the others, in my opinion. There are many great tones to be coaxed out of these little babies. Having said that, the acoustic simulator eats balls. No, not ernie ball guitars, it eats balls. It can be made to sound cool if you play it with the Petrucci using the magnetic pickups only, in the middle position with a little delay and chorus or flange. It makes for an interesting little tone, if nothing else. But, you definately would not want it for Piezo. You would either want to go with a splitter box, or put the petrucci through an acoustic amplifier.
Actually, this reminds me...I still need to get my splitter box and complimentary strap locks. Pete, are you going to be in the stor this Friday?
Actually, this reminds me...I still need to get my splitter box and complimentary strap locks. Pete, are you going to be in the stor this Friday?
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PeteDuBaldo
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cbpmmjp05 said:Actually, this reminds me...I still need to get my splitter box and complimentary strap locks. Pete, are you going to be in the stor this Friday?
Yep, I will also be poisoning a young childs fragile eggshell mind Tuesday night (lessons)
Thurs morning I will be there, Fridays I usually stay late if it gets busy and/or the weather is crappy, otherwise I fire up the Dart and go driving.
Funky Chicken
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I have a Cube 30, which is a great amp to own with a 3 month old in the house. Sometimes a POD and headphones doesn't cut it.
The acoustic preset is good for a special effect type sound. I could see using it in recording as a doubler to add some zing to an arpeggiated part. As far as a convincing acoustic "model", look elsewhere. I'm not complaining- at $229 a Cube 30 is untouchable-I've even played a couple of small gigs with it with really good results.
The acoustic preset is good for a special effect type sound. I could see using it in recording as a doubler to add some zing to an arpeggiated part. As far as a convincing acoustic "model", look elsewhere. I'm not complaining- at $229 a Cube 30 is untouchable-I've even played a couple of small gigs with it with really good results.
edensdad
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Just Curious, how does the 3 month old factor into the sound?Funky Chicken said:
My wife came to all our practices and shows the entire time she was pregnant. Now I have a 13 girl headbanger in the house who plays guitar and wants to be a professional musician. When she was a baby and we couldn't get her to stop crying, we tried everything. I got so frustrated I went into the other room to my drumset and started beating the **** out of it - low and behold - she calmed down and started sleeping. After that - if I wanted to calm her down - I'd crank up my amp and start jamming or play drums (not really well).
I know what some of you are thinking - she has perfect hearing. Sometimes selective, but perfect hearing.
>^..^<
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