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ProtoChicken

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Well, I think I may have been wrong, now that you guys mention it, the crappy amp I was using was probably not a Bogner. I did see some Bogner amps there, and must have just got that name stuck in my head. I had a hard time finding an amp that was not being used, and had a cable attached, so I walked around trying to find something available. I prefer Fenders, but there were no cables. Regardless, the amp I used was one I was not familiar with, and really did sound crappy - very lousy clean tone. Sorry Bogner fans, my apologies.

Is it possible it was one of these? GC has these everywhere now, even in the high end guitar room. Easy to mistake as a Bogner if your not really paying attention.

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Is it possible it was one of these? GC has these everywhere now, even in the high end guitar room. Easy to mistake as a Bogner if your not really paying attention.

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He probably would have been impressed with the Egnater. For a Chinese made amp, they're remarkably good. This is especially true of the little Rebel 20. I'm a huge Bogner fan and I would buy an Egnater before a Bogner Alchemist.
 

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He probably would have been impressed with the Egnater. For a Chinese made amp, they're remarkably good. This is especially true of the little Rebel 20. I'm a huge Bogner fan and I would buy an Egnater before a Bogner Alchemist.

Hmmm. Maybe I played a lower end model, or just a defective one. I really didn't like it. But I haven't heard the Alchemist so I can't say anything about that. I have had a few Bogners, and still own an Ecstasy that I love.
 

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Is it possible it was one of these? GC has these everywhere now, even in the high end guitar room. Easy to mistake as a Bogner if your not really paying attention.

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It was neither, I was totally off. It really was a crappy practice amp, I don't know why I had the name Bogner stuck in my head.
 

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The rosewood necks are fine, feel good, and maybe add some warmth, and look cool, like Beej said not all changes have to be radical tone inducing items just subtle, I prefer and always will the maple oil and wax, just does it for me:)
 

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Edit: I'm wrong, or more accurately the GC salesman was wrong. Looks like they carry the Bogner Alchemist series. I've never hear one but based on the price I'm willing to bet it doesn't sound like an Ecstasy or an Uberschall.


nope they suck in my opinion! bad! waste of R&D testing two thumbs down:p
 

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I agree, the Bogner Alchemist is not that great an amp. I too played through it when I was testing the Luke. The only time is sounded good was when Steve Lukather was playing through it.......

IMHO, for the money, a Rivera would be tough to beat......spend a little more and get a Chubster, I love mine.......
 

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Balancing out the particulars in a good Amp's EQ can also help you isolate the unique qualities of an instrument. Especially the wood.

The difference is very subtle, but I think, oddly enough, the RW's differences can be isolated when unplugged. There's a different resonance, warmth and sustain to it. Note the operative word being different, not better. I sill love the maple necks. It's really hard to describe, but the two selling points for me were 1:

1. Aesthetic value. I'm a huge fan of unfinished necks. The rosewood adds an earthiness and warm balance in the visual department that is entirely unlike any other wood commonly used in guitar craftsmanship. Plus the BFR 12th inlay certain doesn't hurt either.

2. The feel. Break it in, I've had mine for more than a couple months now and its feeling better and better. Like all EBMM, these are like well balanced, fine wines which precipitate and eccentuate their good qualities with age. The rosewood feels the same, just even more so. It's hard to describe, but if it honestly doesn't feel the same to you in your hand than a standad maple then maybe its not a guitar issue that's pressing to you. Different strokes.

If we ever jam Par, you're more than welcome to try mine.
 
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