dannymusic
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I am having a hard time adjusting to the vintage AL trem. I'm just so spoiled by my JP6. Should I just be happy and adjust or know that I can float it. I don't want to muck it up or anything.
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mbgreene
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Go for what works for you.
You cn float it if you want, setting the claw and spring tension so that it sits up off the body. That's the way the Luke is set with the same trem/bridge. Factory on the Luke is set for a G-string pull up 1-1/2 tones to A#. It will not have the exact feel of the Pet - but nothing does.
You cn float it if you want, setting the claw and spring tension so that it sits up off the body. That's the way the Luke is set with the same trem/bridge. Factory on the Luke is set for a G-string pull up 1-1/2 tones to A#. It will not have the exact feel of the Pet - but nothing does.
DrBob
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Really ?
I thought I saw a thread not too long ago where someone said that the Pet trem is basically the standard (brilliant) Musicman trem but with a partial cover on the back of it.
So if that's the case as long as you changed the folded vintage bridge saddles for the stainless steel types would you not be able to get the trem on the Albert set up to feel pretty similar to the Pet trem ?
Either way my Albert's trem is set up to float and even strung with 10-52's it feels tremendously sensitive and hold tune incredibly well.
Do it,
Now,
You won't regret it
mbgreene
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Referencing the overall feel I was considering the saddles, cover and the issue that the Pet trem is set in a route which puts the bridge at a somewhat different starting position. The mechanism may be the same (I don't know) but the ergonomics won't be the same.
DrBob
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Valid points all,
Sorry if that last post of mine came across a little hard, I still find communicating via the keyboard rather than the mouth a little difficult sometimes, particularly in the quasi conversational style of a forum. It's hard to get the inflection in.
My apologies
mbgreene
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No worries, I didn't think you were being harsh and i know the thread you were referring to, I just wanted to clarify for danny for his original post.
all is well
all is well
DrBob
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Nice one, thanks MB.
So now I'm thinking about an AL with a recessed trem !
So now I'm thinking about an AL with a recessed trem !
dannymusic
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so...
loosen the anchor, pull (1) spring?
I assume you have to adjust the saddle heights and reintonate.
loosen the anchor, pull (1) spring?
I assume you have to adjust the saddle heights and reintonate.
Spudmurphy
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You have to relieve tension so either pull one spring or adjust claw - or a bit of both !!
You would then have to adjust the saddle height and finally do the intonation.
After you find this all sucks - revert to how it was before (just joking!!)
You would then have to adjust the saddle height and finally do the intonation.
After you find this all sucks - revert to how it was before (just joking!!)
DrBob
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You might get away without having to do significant adjustment to the intonation.
As to saddle heights well, if the bridge plate starts flat to the body and then you tilt it upward (float it)then the strings will be futher off the fingerboard than previously so you may want to lower the bridge saddles to compensate for this.
However if you think about the geometry and how the bridge saddles relate to the pivot points of the trem, by pushing down on the trem you'll make the strings sit higher in relation to the fretboard which shouldn't cause any problems. As any knock on effect to the strings intonation is a moot point given that you're basically pushing the guitar out of tune anyway.
But by pulling up on the trem you are effectively lowering the string height so in extreme instances you might find your strings 'fret out' or 'choke' against the frets.
As with all things action/trem adjustment related it's a bit of a balancing act really.
PeteDuBaldo
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I had the trem on my AL set up for floating for a while, just like on the LUKE models, and I wound up putting it back to flush on the body because I wasn't happy with it - on the LUKE it feels great, though!
