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1kinal

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Last Thursday I finally got the call that I’ve been waiting for 4 months now. My dealer informed me that my classic arrived. First let me put a good word on this dealer:
When I ordered I was hesitating between sunburst/maple and white/rosewood. I took a chance and asked them if they’d be willing to order both so I could choose the one I like best and they could keep the other one for stock inventory. To my biggest surprise, they said yes! So a BIG thanks to Centre de Musique Victor (they have 3 stores in the province). I ordered the first day after NAMM; in fact they didn’t knew the classic serie existed at that time. I sent them a link to the torture thread and they got back to me the next day with a price (a really good price I have to say). I originally wanted to order from The Perfect Bass or Bass Central because they have a huge inventory but I learned they are not allowed to sell EBMM outside of USA. In the end, I’m really happy to have made business with the local dealer. I received personal attention, good price and service that I couldn’t want more.

I was originally quoted a two month wait. It finally took 4 months. I started to get nervous when someone from the UK received his classic. Canada may not be close to California but it’s not THAT far. Then I received the noticed that the basses were ready and leaving the factory. A week later the basses arrived at the dealer.

I showed up last Thursday to choose my bass excited like a kid the morning of Christmas. Let me explain: I’ve always wanted a Stingray. I’ve been playing bass for 15 years and I’m lucky enough to have an incredible collection of super nice instruments (see my website for a list) but still no EBMM. My first bass teacher played Musicman’s (SR4 and SR5) so it became a model for me. I was also a lot into Flea when I started playing so the Stingray became sort of iconic for me. Finally, I remember a D’Addario ad which had a beautiful sunburst stingray.

On the other hand, when I started playing I was mostly into super versatile instruments (multi pickups) for the wide range of gigs that I do (I’m a freelance session player). As the years pass by, I became able to afford basses yielding a more specific tone. Also, I’ve always wanted a vintage stingray but the nice ones are more and more difficult to find. The arrival of the Classic serie definitely was a godsend for me.

So 15 years later, I now have my Stingray!

I came to the store and was showed the two basses. Both were incredible. The white finish is really close to buttercreme and the birdseye was super nice. In the end I took the sunburst/maple home. It was lighter (9lbs vs 10lbs for the white one) and sounded better in the mids (I was surprised to prefer a maple fingerboard as I generally go for rosewood).

Construction:

Everything about this bass screams quality. The hardware (bridge, tuning keys) are super solid. The body and neck woods resonate nicely and the sunburst finish is wonderful.

I first thought that the body was one-piece ash but upon closer inspection it’s actually two-piece. We clearly see the two pieces around the upper part of the bridge.

I’m super happy with the 9 lbs weight. It’s just enough to get a good sound (I do believe that heavy basses gives a heavy tone) but still manageable to handle on a long gig. The neck balance is great with no neck dive.
The neck pocket is super tight; the string alignment is perfect over the pickup and the nut is well cut.

The thing that amazes me the most is the neck construction. Correct me if I’m wrong but the neck and fingerboard seems to be constructed from one piece. If I compare to my other basses even the ones with a maple fingerboard have a separate maple strip of maple for the fingerboard laminated to a maple neck. My stingray seems to be just one piece, neck AND fingerboard. Is this possible? If it is, then it’s beautiful…

The fretwork is perfect. I never like the jumbo frets of regular production stingray’s so those small frets are super nice.

Setup:

The setup from the box was great. A bit too low for my taste but I understand some people might like that. To me this setup (low string height with a lot of relief) gives the classic clacky sounding SR sound so many people have. It’s not really what I’m looking for so I got the strings higher at the bridge and straighten the neck. The trussrod wheel is something every instrument builder should use. It’s so practicle!

Once the setup was at my taste, the sound became alive. One interesting point: I did notice the shy (low volume) G-string problem many people mention. It was definitely there. Once the bass had the correct relief and the strings were higher, the problem was resolved. I also played with the pickup height a bit so I’m not sure exactly what the solution was but the problem was resolved to my satisfaction. Don’t get me wrong, the stock setup was fine, just not for me. I don’t subscribe to the “it comes perfect from the factory, don’t touch it” thing some of you go for. IMO setup is a personal thing based on the way you play. Kind of adjusting the seat on your new car…

Sound:

The bass sounds like a musicman, no surprise. Heavy and bright by nature with wonderful note definition. I’ve always found stingray’s to be very in front in the mix and now I understand why. While by itself it may be a sound that’s a little aggressive, in the mix it just punch heavily. I can clearly see why soundman’s would like this bass. All the definition you need with great bottom. That said, we have to be careful with the highs as there’s room to get excessively bright past the mid-point. On the plus side, the bass control is usable is its whole range. It also don’t boost the volume like other preamps (aguilar) do.

Conclusion:

It’s the stingray I’ve always wanted. Beautiful look, great construction, playability and wonderful sound. With all those qualities, I can understand why some of you get so fanatical of those instruments and don’t play anything else. I’m happy to join the EBMM family!

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Steamthief

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Nice bass! I believe the maple necks are one piece, my Fender P/J has a one piece neck that I love. Very cool figuring, kind of like a cross between birdseye and flame; I really dig the waviness!

You said the mids sound better on the maple vs. the rosewood - can you elaborate a bit more? I prefer maple, too, seems to cut better to my ears. Congratulations on finally getting a Stingray!
 

1kinal

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I'm not sure we could make this statement general but between those two basses I tried, the maple was more even sounding across the full spectrum of the instrument (lows to highs).

The rosewood board sounded more hollow in the mids making the A and D strings sounding very different (well, not THAT much) from the E string.

To test for this (string-to-string balance) I do two-octaves arpegios while listening closely when I change string. With this test it was apparent (again, in this case only) that the maple was more even sounding. I also think I noticed a faster response with maple but that might totally be in my head!

Like I said I was surprised of this as I generally prefer rosewood boards. On top of that, stingray's being a bright instrument my goal was to tame it a bit with a rosewood board...no need to say I was pleased to change my mind.
 
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sitonmybass

Congratulations!


Since I also prefer rosewood fretboards, I found it interesting that you chose maple.

I also found your description of the sound differences to be exactly the opposite of what I have encountered.

Hmmm...
 

Movielife

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Congrats! I must say that makes me want a Classic again after mine had to be sent back. That colour is probably now my favourite for the Classics, and you've really got a nice piece of Birdseye!
 

Big Poppa

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They are not one piece necks but we use a larger blank than other manufacturers and cut the fretboard fromt he same piece and then use clocators to make the grain line up. Craftmanship baby!
 

five7

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Beautiful! The sunburst was a good choice. Thanks for the post and your observations.
 

syciprider

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The thing that amazes me the most is the neck construction. Correct me if I’m wrong but the neck and fingerboard seems to be constructed from one piece. If I compare to my other basses even the ones with a maple fingerboard have a separate maple strip of maple for the fingerboard laminated to a maple neck. My stingray seems to be just one piece, neck AND fingerboard. Is this possible? If it is, then it’s beautiful…

They are not one piece necks but we use a larger blank than other manufacturers and cut the fretboard fromt he same piece and then use clocators to make the grain line up. Craftmanship baby!

Yup this is one of those little things you miss during the store audition and then makes you go "NICE!" after you finally discover it at home.

BP may charge more for a Classic but he's giving you much more than a pastel color with a fancy bridge.
 

five7

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They are not one piece necks but we use a larger blank than other manufacturers and cut the fretboard fromt he same piece and then use clocators to make the grain line up. Craftmanship baby!

Amazing! Craftsmanship to the max! :D
 

mmbassplayer

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Obligitory bad comment about bass followed by you can send it to me...

Man that neck is horrible... you should send it to me for disposal! JOSH
 

1kinal

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Obligitory bad comment about bass followed by you can send it to me...

Man that neck is horrible... you should send it to me for disposal! JOSH

If it didn't sounded so good I'd definately send it to you for disposal. Because the bass is so ugly I'll keep it for studio work only! ;)

Seriously, I played my first with it tonight. Two words: IT KILLED. It's been a long time I've been that happy with my live sound. What was I waiting all those years? I know...the classic serie was not available yet!
 

Thornton Davis

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If any of my Canadian brothers and sisters are interested in a Classic Stingray 5, one just arrived at Music Pro in Barrie. It's Classic White with a Maple fretboard. They have a website.

TD
 

b-unit

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Oh the GAS will never stop! That is a true beauty! Enjoy!
 
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