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iamcatwarrior

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I think you can only play Chinese pop songs on these fake balls (nothing worse than fake balls.) :mad: Is there such a thing as a Chinese pop song? :rolleyes:

If there is such a thing as a Chinese pop song, it was probably ripped off from an American band. I imagine the Chinese Fall Out Boy, for example, is probably something like "Under Child Falling Departing" or something.
 

Aussie Mark

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Is there such a thing as a Chinese pop song?

There's an entire genre known as Canto-Pop (Cantonese, ie. south-east China and Hongo Kong). If you fly internationally on any airline that flies Asian sectors there's always a dedicated Canto-pop channel on the inflight audio system.
 

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You know counterfeit stuff is a huge problem....whether it is the high end luthier who thinks its ok to make a deluxe copy of your stuff or the chinese copy of poor quality. The funny thing is that usually the little luthier gets sympathy here....I have to protect my intellectual property against all comers in order to have relative protection.

On the string side it is a super big problem. HUGE There was a factory in Italy making bad slinky knock offs and a bunch of china ones too. That was one of the benefits of the new packaging that brian came up with....really impossible unless you want to spend about $750,000 for the equipment. The string companies dont talk about it in public but it is a big time issue
 

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I can imagine it's getting to be a nightmare.

It seems like there's nothing that's produced today that isn't ripped off in some of the less reputable far east industries. I saw an article on fake circuit breakers from China, which just had copper braid instead of the disconnect circuit! That sort of thing runs the risk of people actually dying and they were still allowed to produce them!
 

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"Music man's Sting lei base extends for 25 years or more and is a standard model in the base field. The highest combination of music man's [suwanpuasshubodei;], Maple problem, and ham backing picking up and actively three band equalizer invents a strong base that can be active in the music of all genres. If a professional music group is seen, the Sting lei that carves the groove might be seen. Ray34 faithfully reproduced the original that was this highest masterpiece. Three band equalizer of the ham backing picking up of the Maple problem of [raitoweitosuwanpuasshubodei;] and Maple or rose fingerplate and the music man designs and the music man designs is adopted. The tone control and the volume control of base middle [toreburu] do the same operation made of USA. The sound is a tone with a profound bottom end that supports the music requested from the Sting lei that is classic and can trusted as there is sharply a sense of existence."

Sharply a sense of existence - who wouldn't want that?
 

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You know counterfeit stuff is a huge problem....whether it is the high end luthier who thinks its ok to make a deluxe copy of your stuff or the chinese copy of poor quality. The funny thing is that usually the little luthier gets sympathy here....I have to protect my intellectual property against all comers in order to have relative protection.

On the string side it is a super big problem. HUGE There was a factory in Italy making bad slinky knock offs and a bunch of china ones too. That was one of the benefits of the new packaging that brian came up with....really impossible unless you want to spend about $750,000 for the equipment. The string companies dont talk about it in public but it is a big time issue

Sad to hear that. Sad to hear. I even got bad copy´s when ordering strings for my NS Design electric up-right from German internet music shop Thomann once. I think that it´s D´Addario that makes NS Designs strings bot I got really bad copys. The packaging was crap. Photo copy.... Looked horrible. I sent them back along with a angry letter. Got new and proper ones a week later and a excuse too. They admited that it was not the right strings or packaging but they had no idea what had happened. Sad when even the big ones like Thomann sell knock offs..... It´s most likely that they got screwed too in some way. But noone seem to know how it happend....

Sincerely//Jan
 

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l o l :d

'a stalin electricity bass'

who came up with THAT?

Funny, isnt it? :D

Ishibashi is a major music store in Japan and they sell lots of good stuff. And no knock offs. But they are not very good when it comes to translating things to english. One can often get a good laugh when surfing their web site.... :D

They sell Musicman too. Stingray is translated into Sting lei. No problem with Bongo but they call it Stalin instead of Sterling. Same misstakes with the Sterling by Musicman instruments it seems... ;)

//J
 
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slow roasted

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You know counterfeit stuff is a huge problem....whether it is the high end luthier who thinks its ok to make a deluxe copy of your stuff or the chinese copy of poor quality. The funny thing is that usually the little luthier gets sympathy here....I have to protect my intellectual property against all comers in order to have relative protection.

On the string side it is a super big problem. HUGE There was a factory in Italy making bad slinky knock offs and a bunch of china ones too. That was one of the benefits of the new packaging that brian came up with....really impossible unless you want to spend about $750,000 for the equipment. The string companies dont talk about it in public but it is a big time issue

It's a big issue elsewhere too. Film , music , gaming and a whole host of other art forms are cloned daily. We kind of respect intellectual property in the West, but elsewhere it's anything but....
 

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I think a large part of the problem (which I certainly don't lay at the door of EBMM) began when manufacturers (not just guitars) started off-loading their production to the far east. OK, it had the short-term gain of keeping costs down and profits up, but it also grew an industry of people who could manufacture the stuff.

It then didn't take such a leap of the mind for people to start thinking that they could make more money by making knock-off's of the products and selling them themselves....
 

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In a way this is what drew me to EBMM in the first place. A couple of years back I wanted to buy a new bass. I looked around at all of the new basses. Without naming names let just say that a NEW USA made EBMM costs as much as the competitors Asian made line. At least when Big Poppa makes a pacific rim version of his gear its affordable, not the same price as the other guys usa stuff!
Or the companies that make audio gear and amps. They are selling them for roughly the same price that they were a few years ago when they were US/UK made but they pocket the difference in labor costs!
(rhymes with Loft, Lackey and damp egg)
 

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This is the world we now live in!!!! I try to buy as much American as I can, no offense to our foriegn friend's on this forum. It has become personal to me because of the Chinese junk that you get everywhere you go. Lowes is a prime example. You can't even buy quality screws there. :mad:
 
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