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straycat113

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Well it seems like quite a few are looking for true twang, maybe if enough of us say we are in the Big guy could do something like he did for Paisley-hint-hint- and I dont think a Paisley finish has to be part of it.
 

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Well, since I have two Ron Kirn teles and two MMs now (and have had numerous different MMs in the past), I would say the closest thing to a tele would be a standard Morse - as surprising as it may sound, this guitar is like a super Tele, and the single coils get You where You want a tele twang to be.

The Albert Lee SSS, while an increadibly awesome single coil axe, is a bit strattier to my ear.
 

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I'm with you straycat. Too afraid to get an all single coil EBMM. I think the AL sounds fantastic, but those tones sound closer to a strat to my ears. I'm looking for the twang with the fatness to back it up. I'll probably end up with an AL one of these days. I played one at the NAMM show and it was incredible.

Are you looking for the bridge pickup Tele tone or something else? I had an SSS AL and it totally replaced my Tele.
 

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Man I recommend always having a tele in the armory because it has put a lot of peanut butter on the table for a lot of working class musicians because its so versatile (twang to mellow). However that being said...I have a AL HH that I prefer over my Tele...If you split the coils it gets thinner of course and you can twang it up with the help of the right hand and some good country licks. Plus people are used to seeing country + teles. IF they see some guy with a Jetsons looking guitar blistering some old country licks.... they notice. Plus the AL HH works great if you have to say play Waylon Jennings and the Rolling Stones in the same night. But all is just my opinion.
 

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Hi, I'm a little shocked no one has said this, but...

The standard Morse model gets a fantastic tele tone. Steve Morse's sound encompasses country, prog rock, and a lot more, all done with one guitar.

Try out a morse guitar with the various pickup combinations, it really nails it...
 

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Definitely looking for that Bridge sound Butch.

SSS AL definitely then. The Morse won't get you there. I know fro experience. The AL MM90 and Axis SS MM90, will do a fatter Tele-type tone, but they're still soapbars and not Tele bridge pickups.

I had an AL SSS before the Silent circuit came out. I took the metal strip off the bridge pickup and replaced it with the bottom plate used for a Seymour Duncan Twang Banger. It did make a difference; but not incredibly. I used my AL for everything. When I had it, my Tele stayed in the case (unless I needed the B-Bender for something).
 

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Good to see you back Butch, where have you been?!!

I do remember you going through many Morse changes.

I am intrigued by the base plate changes.........
 

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I took the metal strip off the bridge pickup and replaced it with the bottom plate used for a Seymour Duncan Twang Banger. It did make a difference; but not incredibly.
Jason Lollar (Lollar pickups) has said he's done lots of testing over the years to see the effect of the baseplate. In a nustshell, he thinks adding one makes a minor difference in tone, essentially increasing the inductance slightly. (All things being equal, increasing the inductance is going to make the pickup a little more "middy"). I'm sure I've read Bill Lawrence saying something similar.

Bottom line is, you're going going to nail that tele tone w/o a tele bridge. So the question is how close do you really need to get. But the AL is a fantastic guitar and really twangy, so I'd prefer it in a heartbeat. (But that's me.)
 

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Bottom line is, you're going going to nail that tele tone w/o a tele bridge....

Will, or won't nail tone?

Any of you guys really managed to tame a split humbucker with great effect in the bridge position, for these 'thinner' tones?

I am thinking of playing around with baseplates, magnets, and putting some components in the way of a high power output, seeing if something special can be obtained.
 

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Good to see you back Butch, where have you been?!!

I do remember you going through many Morse changes.

I am intrigued by the base plate changes.........

Thanks, I missed being here; but as I do not own an EBMM guitar, I didn't think I could really add anything here...

I am thinking of playing around with baseplates, magnets, and putting some components in the way of a high power output, seeing if something special can be obtained.[/QUOTE]

"Won't"....

The bridge pickup being mounted to that assembly, is a majot element in the Tele bridge pickup tone.
 

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Hi, I'm a little shocked no one has said this, but...

The standard Morse model gets a fantastic tele tone. Steve Morse's sound encompasses country, prog rock, and a lot more, all done with one guitar.

Try out a morse guitar with the various pickup combinations, it really nails it...

Good point, the Morse is super versatile. Plus it has a slab body shape similar to a Tele.
 
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