The all new Ernie Ball Music Man Vault!

[Ted]

I really love the AL in the Firemist Silver but it says it would take about 4 months to deliver.

I feel your pain. The guitar I really wanted to be my first EBMM guitar was an Albert Lee HH in Emerald City back in 2022. I was going to try to get it through a dealer, but then realized it could only be gotten through the Vault. I was ready to buy it but then the price of it went up a couple hundred bucks and that irked me. The other guitar that I was interested in was the Pine Green Valentine BFR-- and really it was mostly only because pine green is my all time favorite color. I went back and forth I figured if I could get a dealer to knock some off of a BFR and get a better deal on it than a standard AL at a set price-- and I did get a deal on the Valentine-- then that's the direction I would go in. Ended up loving the Valentine far more than I ever thought I would. (Yes, I chose the one with my favorite color over the model I liked better, haha)

Still would like to get an Albert Lee in Emerald City- but it's like there are none floating around in the wild. Not even any photos of them posted by an owner-- just the pics sourced from the EBMM website. I found one on Reverb used for a nice price once-- after it had already sold. I'd rather get a used one, because with inflation I just can't drop 3K on a new one when I could get a nice deal on something else in a different color for closer to 2k. Going through a dealer you have a chance of getting a deal. The Vault not so much.

Also, if you want a Firemist Silver AL SSS right now there's one on Reverb for $2000 used in excellent condition. I checked the serial number and it was built in 2021. No mention of the weight but you could message the seller.

Ernie Ball Music Man Albert Lee Signature SSS Tremolo | Reverb

Reverb is a marketplace bringing together a wide-spanning community to buy, sell, and discuss all things music gear.

reverb.com

 

[daneford]

I feel your pain. The guitar I really wanted to be my first EBMM guitar was an Albert Lee HH in Emerald City back in 2022. I was going to try to get it through a dealer, but then realized it could only be gotten through the Vault. I was ready to buy it but then the price of it went up a couple hundred bucks and that irked me. The other guitar that I was interested in was the Pine Green Valentine BFR-- and really it was mostly only because pine green is my all time favorite color. I went back and forth I figured if I could get a dealer to knock some off of a BFR and get a better deal on it than a standard AL at a set price-- and I did get a deal on the Valentine-- then that's the direction I would go in. Ended up loving the Valentine far more than I ever thought I would. (Yes, I chose the one with my favorite color over the model I liked better, haha)

Still would like to get an Albert Lee in Emerald City- but it's like there are none floating around in the wild. Not even any photos of them posted by an owner-- just the pics sourced from the EBMM website. I found one on Reverb used for a nice price once-- after it had already sold. I'd rather get a used one, because with inflation I just can't drop 3K on a new one when I could get a nice deal on something else in a different color for closer to 2k. Going through a dealer you have a chance of getting a deal. The Vault not so much.

Also, if you want a Firemist Silver AL SSS right now there's one on Reverb for $2000 used in excellent condition. I checked the serial number and it was built in 2021. No mention of the weight but you could message the seller.

Ernie Ball Music Man Albert Lee Signature SSS Tremolo | Reverb

Reverb is a marketplace bringing together a wide-spanning community to buy, sell, and discuss all things music gear.

reverb.com

This guitar is also listed in TGP for slightly less. No sales tax either.

 

[blueruins]

I feel your pain. The guitar I really wanted to be my first EBMM guitar was an Albert Lee HH in Emerald City back in 2022. I was going to try to get it through a dealer, but then realized it could only be gotten through the Vault. I was ready to buy it but then the price of it went up a couple hundred bucks and that irked me. The other guitar that I was interested in was the Pine Green Valentine BFR-- and really it was mostly only because pine green is my all time favorite color. I went back and forth I figured if I could get a dealer to knock some off of a BFR and get a better deal on it than a standard AL at a set price-- and I did get a deal on the Valentine-- then that's the direction I would go in. Ended up loving the Valentine far more than I ever thought I would. (Yes, I chose the one with my favorite color over the model I liked better, haha)

Still would like to get an Albert Lee in Emerald City- but it's like there are none floating around in the wild. Not even any photos of them posted by an owner-- just the pics sourced from the EBMM website. I found one on Reverb used for a nice price once-- after it had already sold. I'd rather get a used one, because with inflation I just can't drop 3K on a new one when I could get a nice deal on something else in a different color for closer to 2k. Going through a dealer you have a chance of getting a deal. The Vault not so much.

Also, if you want a Firemist Silver AL SSS right now there's one on Reverb for $2000 used in excellent condition. I checked the serial number and it was built in 2021. No mention of the weight but you could message the seller.

Ernie Ball Music Man Albert Lee Signature SSS Tremolo | Reverb

Reverb is a marketplace bringing together a wide-spanning community to buy, sell, and discuss all things music gear.

reverb.com

Thank you all...not what I wanted to hear but first world problems right?

I actually did contact this seller and the weight is heavier than I need. Beautiful guitar though.

This will now become a stalking guitar sufari...I'm sure a suitable Albert Lee will surface before too long. Having a hard time wrapping my mind around the pricing as I bought my last AL many moons ago for @$800

Oh, and @Ted I'll keep my eyes open for an Emerald City while I hunt and keep you posted.

 

[Ted]

This guitar is also listed in TGP for slightly less. No sales tax either.

Is it an Albert Lee? The only thing I found was a Firemist Cutlass for $1900.

The thing about sales tax.... did Reverb always charge that? The sales tax has been the dealbreaker for me every time I put something into my cart. Inflation has already gotten so bad-- and the extra sales charge on top of that just kills it for me. I don't know who does or doesn't charge sales tax.... what are some good venues besides Reverb?

 

[jlf599]

Is it an Albert Lee? The only thing I found was a Firemist Cutlass for $1900.

The thing about sales tax.... did Reverb always charge that? The sales tax has been the dealbreaker for me every time I put something into my cart. Inflation has already gotten so bad-- and the extra sales charge on top of that just kills it for me. I don't know who does or doesn't charge sales tax.... what are some good venues besides Reverb?

The Gear Page is a place I use. Still on the hunt for others.

I don't think Reverb had a choice about the sales tax issue, though I could be wrong. I sell there and buy there but it irks me that sales tax has to be collected/charged for a used item from a private party. I could totally get if it was a business, but...

Oh well, not a lot to be done about it.

 

[Ted]

The Gear Page is a place I use. Still on the hunt for others.

I don't think Reverb had a choice about the sales tax issue, though I could be wrong. I sell there and buy there but it irks me that sales tax has to be collected/charged for a used item from a private party. I could totally get if it was a business, but...

Oh well, not a lot to be done about it.

On one side I think it levels the playing field somewhat for brick-and-mortar. It's kind of messed up if there's a local store in my city that has an item and it's cheaper for me to buy it from halfway across the country. But of course, a local shop rarely stocks what I want.

Yes, it's ridiculous colllecting sales tax on used items between private individuals.

 

[daneford]

Is it an Albert Lee? The only thing I found was a Firemist Cutlass for $1900.

The thing about sales tax.... did Reverb always charge that? The sales tax has been the dealbreaker for me every time I put something into my cart. Inflation has already gotten so bad-- and the extra sales charge on top of that just kills it for me. I don't know who does or doesn't charge sales tax.... what are some good venues besides Reverb?

It's the second guitar down in this post. Currently 1900.00, down from 2100.00, and he's had it up for months.

https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/price-drops-prs-sc245-ebmm-albert-lee-kiesel-delos-lsl-dangelico-sh.2537512/

I hear you on inflation and taxes. Iirc, Reverb didn't always collect it, but does now. Prices, taxes, and the potential for a paypal 1099 at some point down the road have cut down my buying and selling. I'm much more selective now, and am not buying much of anything.

 

[Ted]

... But of course, a local shop rarely stocks what I want.

Well, finally a local shop DID have something I wanted and it resulted in a NGD. Music Man #3 is in my possession. My first two are Valentines...Which model did I get this time? NGD thread coming soon.

 

[b3l5tele]

There is a guitar I am interested that is on the Ernie Ball Reverb page and the Vault. Is there any advantage to ordering from one over the other?

 

[GWDavis28]

There is a guitar I am interested that is on the Ernie Ball Reverb page and the Vault. Is there any advantage to ordering from one over the other?

Not everything in the vault is available thru a dealer. I'd say if you want it and it's available in the vault think about buying it.

What did you see?

Glenn |B)

 

[Sweat]

Glenn , EBMM has their own Reverb page, it is the vault stuff, advantage for getting from Reverb they take offers, disadvantage is Reverb charges tax buying direct from the Vault no tax

 

[Ted]

ernie-ball-music-man-valentine-guitar-black.html


Holy crap that is sexy... I don't even like black guitars generally but that one just does it for me with the matching headstock and white body binding. I also dig the rosewood and block inlays-- Damn.

 

[Sweat]

Wow look at this, is it a production model - Ernie Ball Music Man Silhouette Silver Roller

 

[Smellybum]

Wow look at this, is it a production model - Ernie Ball Music Man Silhouette Silver Roller

Missed it by 10 minutes (Smelly weeps)

 

[morsecode]

Wow look at this, is it a production model - Ernie Ball Music Man Silhouette Silver Roller

So can we be expecting a forthcoming NGD post?

 

[Sweat]

So can we be expecting a forthcoming NGD post?

LOL yes, I could not resist, had been looking for a Gold Roller but this is even better, just happened to check the Vault page yesterday and there it was

 

[morsecode]

LOL yes, I could not resist, had been looking for a Gold Roller but this is even better, just happened to check the Vault page yesterday and there it was

I had my eye on that one as well. But I chose to go with something else instead. Hopefully I will see it in about 3 or 4 months.

 

[Ted]

A few days ago on twitter, I saw that EBMM had a little promo ad showing the Black Valentine, Silver Roller Silo and some kind of burl Sabre (I think that's what it was) and the implication I got from it was an "order yours today" vibe-- meaning that it seemed like they were going to make more than one of each-- and they would be vault exclusives built to order.

But it looks like they were just one offs. It has been a long time since we had a seasonal release of BFRs (I would hope this recent Majesty BFR release is not going to count as this season's BFRs). I can't believe it's almost been a whole year since the Summer '23 BFR line.

Maybe these one-offs that pop up from time to time are rejected candidate prototypes from upcoming BFR lines.

 

[Sweat]

I have at least two one off's from the vault and with th Silver Roller maybe three, either way love them all

 

[fogman]

I have at least two one off's from the vault and with th Silver Roller maybe three, either way love them all

Are you the one that snatched up the S.R.? If not, it's gone.