Trem setup on MMJP

[Bowks]

Just wanting to pick up on something Jon said a few days ago about trem setups with 9s and 10s needing only 2 springs and how this affects me currently.

I'm lucky enough to have a JPMM as does one of the students I teach. Both out guitars are set up with EB Regular Slinkies, but their trem is very 'bouncy' and responsive, whereas mine feels stiff and won't 'gurgle' when you flick back on the bar, which I would like to be able to do.

My guitar came as standard with 3 springs, arranged like this: /|\, so in an attempt to lighten up the feel of the bridge, I removed the middle spring, leaving them like this: / \, and screwed the trem claw back to increase tension but there's not enough there to level out the bridge.

Can anyone else that owns a JP advise whether their bridge feels and acts quite bouncy with 3 springs and if so, is there a particular way to set the bridge up in order o get a nice light feel to it. Mine is usually set with the top of the baseplate about 1mm proud of the top of the guitar, but I've seen others with the trem sat higher in the body and the saddles set lower to get a nice action.

All advice is appreiated.

Rich

 

[Warg Master]

Sounds like you need three springs in there.... Here's something to try that has worked for me and a few others in the past: Try entirely new springs. You may have some old or stiff springs, new ones will help dramatically it sounds like to me.

Or... wwww.temol-no.com

Or ignore me, as I tend to be proven wrong over and over.

 

[Bowks]

I've had to go back to 3 springs for now, but I'll get hold of some fresh springs too.

I found some springs in my maintainence box and the one thing that did occur to me is how much they vary in tension. AFAIK, no-one rates or grades their trem springs, so if you did have to replace them, it can mean you have to mess about re-balancing the bridge again.

I might just switch the ones from my students guitar when I oil and wax the neck for him

 

[Warg Master]

I've had to go back to 3 springs for now, but I'll get hold of some fresh springs too.

I found some springs in my maintainence box and the one thing that did occur to me is how much they vary in tension. AFAIK, no-one rates or grades their trem springs, so if you did have to replace them, it can mean you have to mess about re-balancing the bridge again.

I might just switch the ones from my students guitar when I oil and wax the neck for him

OOOOOOh, that's terrible..... I'd do it

 

[OrangeChannel]

Put three springs in....

Arrange them like this: | | |

Also what you want to do is adjust the claw, if you over tightened it to try and make it stiff what you're doing is pullng the back end of the bridge into the recess thus making it unlevel....you need to back out the claw a lil' bit so that in effect you're raising the back of the bridge to level the plate...

Warg,
Don't steal the flow....T-No spokesman is my thing 'round here....haha.

Tremol-No isn't specifically for leveling the bridge....it will allow you to lockout the trem and convert it to fixed bridge mode on any guitar with a floating trem...with the deep C mod you can drop tune and lower the pitch only or go full floating as well....
They're still not in production yet....but I certainly can't wait for it....hahaha!

Oh...and it's:

www.tremolno.com


Late

Jon Z.

 

[kbaim]

Explains why I have trouble keeping in tune. Mines set up like this

& @ %


I think Jon is messing with me.



KEITH

 

[Warg Master]

Put three springs in....

Arrange them like this: | | |

Also what you want to do is adjust the claw, if you over tightened it to try and make it stiff what you're doing is pullng the back end of the bridge into the recess thus making it unlevel....you need to back out the claw a lil' bit so that in effect you're raising the back of the bridge to level the plate...

Warg,
Don't steal the flow....T-No spokesman is my thing 'round here....haha.

Tremol-No isn't specifically for leveling the bridge....it will allow you to lockout the trem and convert it to fixed bridge mode on any guitar with a floating trem...with the deep C mod you can drop tune and lower the pitch only or go full floating as well....
They're still not in production yet....but I certainly can't wait for it....hahaha!

Oh...and it's:

www.tremolno.com


Late

Jon Z.

Weeellll! Fine then!

I'll go off to my little corner now.

 

[Bowks]

Put three springs in....

Arrange them like this: | | |

Also what you want to do is adjust the claw, if you over tightened it to try and make it stiff what you're doing is pullng the back end of the bridge into the recess thus making it unlevel....you need to back out the claw a lil' bit so that in effect you're raising the back of the bridge to level the plate...

That's how I have the guitar set right now having failed to be able to level the bridge with just 2 springs. I'm pretty au fait with trem set ups so I knew how to tinker with the claw, but thanks for your assistance.

I guess I'll have to see if Obi-Jon Smithobi can offer any advice when he sees this thread...............


Help me Obi-Jon, you're my only hope!