Tube Amp or Amp Modeller???

[SteveB]

If you're playing live with a band, get a tube amp. (Plus, you can cook breakfast on it after it warms up!)

If you're just practicing at home or recording, get the modeler first. You'll eventually end up with one of each anyway, I'm just trying to help you prioritize!

 

[Raz]

If you're playing live with a band, get a tube amp. (Plus, you can cook breakfast on it after it warms up!)

If you're just practicing at home or recording, get the modeler first. You'll eventually end up with one of each anyway, I'm just trying to help you prioritize!

That's exactly what we've been saying...hell I'd have a tube amp if I were a rock star, but I'm not, well not in the real world anyway

 

[Luiz Gustavo]

I agree.

If playing liv go for TUBES.

Ohhh, just playing at home or home recording ??? Got for modellers.

Take a look at POD XT Live.

I got The XT Live and POD 2.3 bean type, and a Marshall 5275 combo for live gigs. I´m looking for a Dual Rect Tremoverb soon.

 

[cbpmmjp05]

Tube amp: Peavey JSX

Modeling amp: Roland Micro Cube or Cube 30

I have the cube 30, and that thing smokes any of the other modeling amps out there. I have played most of the modeling amps, and I can honestly say that if you can't get the tone you are looking for out of the Cube 30, then Line 6 and Vox isn't going to help you. I use my cube for all home precticing and recording, and only use my rig live.

 

[fogman]

Here's a dumb question!

Can you use a modeller with a tube amp? (not that you'd want to) I'm just curious.

 

[Raz]

Here's a dumb question!

Can you use a modeller with a tube amp? (not that you'd want to) I'm just curious.

Well here's the thing, you can but you would or may (choice) have to shut off the AMP modelling part. Same goes if you like the tone of a particular cabinet that you have you can shut off the cab modelling. Anything is possible, the whole idea behind a modeller is to push the sound through a source that adds no colour to the sound while pushing it, like a PA or going through the effects line in, thus bypassing the pre-amp.

 

[Tim O'Sullivan]

Here's a dumb question!

Can you use a modeller with a tube amp? (not that you'd want to) I'm just curious.

Yes indeed! Some people use the modeller as a preamp running into the power section of a valve amp, other people use it as a fancy pedal, or you can just use the FX and let the valves do the overdriving.

In a word... yes!!!

 

[edensdad]

Tube.


Why would you want an imitation, when you could get the original.

>^..^<

(I actually have some digital rack stuff I play around with occasionally . . key words: play around with)

Whatever makes you happy

 

[CudBucket]

For practicing and recording, the Tonelab is great. I love mine. But the best amp I've ever owned is the Peavey JSX head on a Mesa Boogie Rectifier 2x12 cab.

 

[Spudmurphy]

Here's a dumb question!

Can you use a modeller with a tube amp? (not that you'd want to) I'm just curious.

Oh yes indeed.

The pod XT through my Marshall 50 tube combo sounds amazing. I run the Pod xt through the return on the back of the amp.

I made an aluminium holder for the pod that slips under the handle of the Marshall, tilts the XT towards you at any angle you want, with an FBV shortboard out front.

The xt is fantastic for recording, practising and for connecting to the Line 6 website for updates and downloads via USB. Oh and it has midi too not that I know jack sh*t about midi.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, playing thro the POD made me start playing again after a long absence.

So the upshot is
get a Marshall tube and an XT.

Having said that the new Vox amps sound good !!!!! ;-)

Murph

 

[jeffrey]

MOdelers are ok for practice, but never for a main rig, for me at least.

 

[fogman]

Tube.


Why would you want an imitation, when you could get the original.

>^..^<

I could get the original, however I'll probably never gig! Or crank it to the volume that I would be required to get the optimum sound!
Just me, in the back room, late at night, others are sleeping.

 

[jeffrey]

You really don't have to crank them that loud to get a good sound, not since the early 80's at least.

I've got an '83 Boogie MarkIIC+ 1x12 combo that I use as a practice amp. It sounds awesome at low volumes.

 

[fogman]

Correct me if I'm wrong, since I've never owned a tube amp. This is not true of all tube amplifiers right? So other than trying every amp, how would I know.

Either way I'd be getting probably a 30W amp. I don't see me needing anyting larger/louder at this point anyways.
Too bad though. Because I really like the sound of the Peavey 5150/6505 and the JXX series if pretty nice too.

 

[jeffrey]

Just get what sounds good to you, regardless of rating, that you can afford and move on man.

Problem solved.

 

[Jimi D]

I've got an '83 Boogie MarkIIC+ 1x12 combo that I use as a practice amp. It sounds awesome at low volumes.

I owned a Mark IIC+ SymulClass w/ EQ head for years, and as good as that amp was, it was not what I would call a "practice" amp... It didn't sound really good unless it was loud enough to be heard over the drummer. It was certainly too loud to be used in the house at night when the wife and kids are in bed, even at it's lowest usable setting...

I have a little Tech21 Trademark 10 for home practice - it's been my practice amp for six years straight because it gives me great tones at really usable household volumes - no waking the kids, no drowning out anyone trying to watch TV, and no worries about burning tubes just to noodle away...

 

[Jonny Dubai]

I have been playing guitar for 25 years (and I am only 33), and at the moment I am playing through a vox valvetronix, like the tone lab, but with a bit more. (VT60). It is a 1x12 60w, but has a cool switch at the back that lets you limit the volume to 1w, 12w, 30w or 60w, so you can crank it at 1w and get the tube (singular) working. For me it is great for bedroom practice. Loads of sounds, user friendly and recordable.

If you realy want a practice valve amp also check out Cornford (6w) or an old fender champ practice amp. Lany is also a good valve job.


Jonny

 

[fogman]

I was looking at the Valvetronix!
I haven't tried it yet thoug. So its pretty good then?

 

[Jonny Dubai]

I get on realy well with it. Not too expencive either. You can get both (tube and modeling)with a fender ciber twin, but i have never played it. Check out the vox website. They have some great info on there. There are the silver looking ones and the ones that look like a vox. The silver ones are a stripped down version, ut the vox looking ones (if you know what i mean) play well. There is a new version out with an enhanced speaker (not played that either, but it is a bit more expencive)

I gigged mine and it sounded great.

Try one out, I was pleasently surprised and i am not getting rid of it. You realy need to get the footswitch for it too. I just got the cheep one and it is cool and easy to use.

 

[Jonny Dubai]

forgot to say. The chorus can be a bit too much if using distortion. I dont use chorus and distortion at the same time so not to worry. I sounds fine on the clean sounds though.