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Ok I dont have a real MM I just have an OLP, and I probably dont belong here, but maybe just maybe someone can help me out :).

Well My guitar just keeps going out of tune... its driving me nuts.... I'm trying to jam with my friends and it will go out of tune and ruin it...

Could the problem be anything but crappy tuners? Where could I get new tuners(preferably not local because of price), and how much?

Please help!
Michael
 
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MCBTunes said:
Ok I dont have a real MM I just have an OLP, and I probably dont belong here, but maybe just maybe someone can help me out :).

Well My guitar just keeps going out of tune... its driving me nuts.... I'm trying to jam with my friends and it will go out of tune and ruin it...

Could the problem be anything but crappy tuners? Where could I get new tuners(preferably not local because of price), and how much?

Please help!
Michael
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First off describe your guitar in detail...pics would help. Does it have a trem? If so what kind...that sort of stuff. Is the guitar new? Does it have new strings, if so were they stretched? Where abouts in Canada are you?
 
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I had an OLP once. Long story as to what happened to it. I hate to say it, but, it is not going to hold tune like an EBMM. That much you know. Mine held tune fairly decent, so maybe a string change and properly stretchin' them is the way to go and see if that helps.

You are certainly welcome here. But, save your $$$ and get a EBMM and you will be much happier. :cool:
 
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Come on guys - I don't think "Buy a new guitar." is particularly constructive advice for someone looking to solve their tuning difficulties. A lot of people get solid performance out of their little OLPs - sure they're not an EBMM, but when it's an OLP you're playing, you gotta make it work for you. I would first suggest that you go out on the Internet and get some detailed instructions on how to string a guitar properly, including wrapping your strings around the tuner posts correctly and STRETCHING your strings properly when first stringing up. I would also suggest that if you have a trem on the guitar, you torque it down and DO NOT use it - unless you want to replace the nut with a professionally cut teflon nut, because those cheap plastic ones will almost certainly bind things up with trem use. Also, sometimes our playing style can be a little rough on tuning - your pickups and amp should do most of the work; you don't have to hammer your strings, and a lighter touch can go a long way toward keeping everything in tune... my 2¢
 
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OrangeChannel said:
Stretch the strings thoroughly!!!!!!!!! How do you rap the strings on the posts?
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Hmm this is kind of interestingtopic to me. How do you stretch strings? I mean how EXACTLY you do it?
 
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mhorse said:
Hmm this is kind of interestingtopic to me. How do you stretch strings? I mean how EXACTLY you do it?
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You put your fingers under them and pull up, and sideways, and frontways, and backwards....anyway you can go without breaking it, that's what I do. Then tune it up, and do it all over again until the strings stop going out of tune. Then do the whole process of stretching again in a few days. That should help.
 
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Jimi D said:
Come on guys - I don't think "Buy a new guitar." is particularly constructive advice for someone looking to solve their tuning difficulties. A lot of people get solid performance out of their little OLPs - sure they're not an EBMM, but when it's an OLP you're playing, you gotta make it work for you. I would first suggest that you go out on the Internet and get some detailed instructions on how to string a guitar properly, including wrapping your strings around the tuner posts correctly and STRETCHING your strings properly when first stringing up. I would also suggest that if you have a trem on the guitar, you torque it down and DO NOT use it - unless you want to replace the nut with a professionally cut teflon nut, because those cheap plastic ones will almost certainly bind things up with trem use. Also, sometimes our playing style can be a little rough on tuning - your pickups and amp should do most of the work; you don't have to hammer your strings, and a lighter touch can go a long way toward keeping everything in tune... my 2¢
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So, don't tell him to get a new guitar, but do tell him not to use one of it's features and replace the nut? ;) I think the nut will be just fine with the trem. Give it a little lubrication and you ought to be fine. But be sure to STRETCH those strings. :)
 
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Granted, I have never played an OLP, but I'm guessing it's no worse than most low end guitars - of which I have played/owned several. In most cases, I am very happy with them. Heck, my brother has a Yamaha Pacifica that seems to play better than some of my high end guitars. So forgetting the fact that OLP is lower end for the moment, the other thing to try is replacing the stock tuners with the locking variety. They seem to make a world of difference with tuning stability on guitars with non-locking trems.

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MikeVt said:
Granted, I have never played an OLP, but I'm guessing it's no worse than most low end guitars - of which I have played/owned several. In most cases, I am very happy with them. Heck, my brother has a Yamaha Pacifica that seems to play better than some of my high end guitars. So forgetting the fact that OLP is lower end for the moment, the other thing to try is replacing the stock tuners with the locking variety. They seem to make a world of difference with tuning stability on guitars with non-locking trems.

MikeVt
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stupid ? alert what does OLP stand for?
 
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99.7658% of the time i hear this complaint......it's not the tuners...it turns out to be that the client isn't putting the strings on correctly.....or the nut slots are binding the string from returning to pitch after a string bend......
i can't tell you how many times i could have sold a new set of tunning keys.....instead of sanding out the guys nutslots & a lube job.....or demonstrating how to correctly put on a string...
the olp's i've seen ....... good tunning keys.......not fancy...but always solid........
i would however be very suspicious of their nutslots....

MCBTunes said:
Ok I dont have a real MM I just have an OLP, and I probably dont belong here, but maybe just maybe someone can help me out :).

Well My guitar just keeps going out of tune... its driving me nuts.... I'm trying to jam with my friends and it will go out of tune and ruin it...

Could the problem be anything but crappy tuners? Where could I get new tuners(preferably not local because of price), and how much?

Please help!
Michael
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Raz said:
First off describe your guitar in detail...pics would help. Does it have a trem? If so what kind...that sort of stuff. Is the guitar new? Does it have new strings, if so were they stretched? Where abouts in Canada are you?
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Location: Saskatoon Saskatchewan
Strings: new, but they did it before, I did stretch them
Guitar: Basically new, not completely.
Trem: yes, I dont usually have it screwed in, i dont use it... in the pic it is screwed in....

is the bridge supposed to pop out like that?

I'm gonna read up on how to put the strings on the guitar... but it went out of tune with stock strings too so?
 
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There's part of your problem there, the bridge isn't resting on the body as it is designed to do, therefore, when you tune the guitar, and say you bend a note, the tension has changed, thus causing a little more settling in postion of the bridge. Tighten the claw screws underneath the guitar until the bridge rests on the guitar. Do this in small increments, tuning the guitar as you go along.

If you need step by step help, just ask I will walk you through it...
 
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