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Preamp - the low-level amplifying stages in a guitar amplifier. This is where the tiny signal from the guitar pickup is amplified and shaped for the desired tonality before being sent to the power amplifier, which generates the high power signal needed to drive the speakers.


like i said, the it does amplifi it somewhat, but its defenitly not its main purpse... thats what the amplifire is for


Power amp - the high-level amplifying stage in a guitar amplifier. This is where the smaller preamp signal is converted into a high power signal necessary to drive the speakers to the desired output level.
 

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yeh man the bass is amazing, not problems with it at all... dude i'm so pissed, the band i was going to join that i got the tower of power gig, their bassest decided not to leave, so i'm gona be band less...i'm so bumed about it... but what ever, somthen will come outa it
 

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I've replaced my original pickup (MM Sterling) for Bartolini MME (tree coil) and extremelly happy with my setup. As for me, the sound is much better, more controlable, more gentle, more articulate and less boomy. But if you want some aggresive tone coming thru your 1000 W speaker killing everybody around, then you don't have to change anything.
 

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Strings can make a big difference in attack, articulation, high end, etc.

I'd sure as hell try changing strings before yanking a pickup out.
 

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strings is important thing, nobody would argue. I tried some, the most famous ones... like Roto Sound swing bass, D'dario...etc. The best I could find was DR hi-beam.
I like Bartolini MM pickup much more than the original one no matter what strings are put on my Sterling.
As for a pre amp.. I can say the one thing... The original pre amp is good for a live perfomance , not for a studio recording. The noise level is still too high, especialy when you boost the hi's .

I'll come back to the original pickup only when decide to sell my MM.
 
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Well im using DR Low Riders at the moment and i cleaned the neck yesterday and i must say that the difference is huge now, sounds a good bit clearer, almost like the new string sound but not quite as twangy - amazing what a bit of polish can do!
PS i forgot to say that im based in Dundee, Scotland but hopefully my band will pick up and ill be out of here soon :p



(www.help-centre.com if you were wondering if my band had a site :D )
 

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Mishter_Grolsch said:
PS i forgot to say that im based in Dundee, Scotland but hopefully my band will pick up and ill be out of here soon :p

Small world.

You don't have that sunburst stingray that was in Soundcontrol a while back do you???

Is that the local music shop you were talking about.
 
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Nah, its all black with a black pickguard! lovely peice of engineering! :p Yea sound control is my local :mad:
I take it sound control is your local too then? :confused:
 

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Mishter_Grolsch said:
Nah, its all black with a black pickguard! lovely peice of engineering! :p Yea sound control is my local :mad:
I take it sound control is your local too then? :confused:

Yep. There was a really nice stingray in there for a while. I think it was a vintage sunburst. Lovely thing.

Rainbow music has (or at least had, I haven't been in there for a while) a 20th anniversary stingray, worth a look.
 

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I used to play the stingray more than 10 years ago... it was something...Great bass... not like the ones we're having today. Sometimes people from manufacture think if they push the wheel once it's gonna roll forever. That's exactly what Leo Fender does and looks like someone is willing to follow his example. :)
 
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Ah i see, i never really went in to Rainbow that often mainly because i thought it was a crap shop that only sold guitars. Might go and check it out see if i can get myself a wee deal in there :cool: By the way, i was wondering if theres any great deal of diffrence between the MM Sub, Sterling and SR4? I was always under the impression that the SUB and Sterling are the cheaper versions of the SR4 although im probably wrong...
 

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Mishter_Grolsch said:
Ah i see, i never really went in to Rainbow that often mainly because i thought it was a crap shop that only sold guitars. Might go and check it out see if i can get myself a wee deal in there :cool: By the way, i was wondering if theres any great deal of diffrence between the MM Sub, Sterling and SR4? I was always under the impression that the SUB and Sterling are the cheaper versions of the SR4 although im probably wrong...

You're right on the SUB. It's still a US stingray, but with a finish that is quicker to apply on both the body and neck, slightly cheaper body wood (not inferior in terms of tone, though) slightly cheaper components. They're nice basses for the price.

The Sterling is a different model of bass... it has neck dimensions closer to that of a Fender Jazz whereas a Stingray's closer to a precision. The body is smaller, it has a ceramic pickup (compared with the Stingray's alnico p'up) with a phantom coil and some interesting pickup switching options (single coil etc.)

It's basically a four string version of an SR5 (if that makes sense).

I've played just the one of them and it was a fantastic bass... easily the equal of the Stingray. In fact, they're a bit more expensive.

You can also get a SUB Sterling, which is a cheaper version of the sterling.
 
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I used to play the stingray more than 10 years ago... it was something...Great bass... not like the ones we're having today. Sometimes people from manufacture think if they push the wheel once it's gonna roll forever.

Stingrays from 10 years ago are not significantly differently from Stingrays built today. If you liked your Stingray ten years ago but don't like Stingrays built this year, the difference is probably not in the bass.

And for the record, I bought my first Stingray in 1978. I've had .... well, let's just say I've had a LOT of Stingrays, plus a handful of Sterlings and more than a handful of Stingray 5s.

Playability? Tone? Quality control? Finish options? Give me the modern era basses every time on every issue. Not that I'd mind having another old one, but just because I like having lots of basses. In no way do I think the pre-EB basses were better.

But ten years ago? You're really talking about the same bass being sold today.
 

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I guess it's a wood. That's how I was buying that old MM Stingray. I did not hook it up. I just put my ear against the body and listen while fingering...
That can be a big time discussion with many different opinions... but still it's kind of tendency but hardly coincidence....
Look at the Ford 1976 and 2004... Is there some difference? I think so...
Whenever you want to get yourself a good name as a company or a firm,you try your best and you get the result no matter what... It's somthing like a hand made production... at any costs... just one thing in the mind - quality!!!
Then the company is growing, and there is no time for deep evaluation and analysis... it's a management time... how many are sold , how much in the pocket... It's not somebody's fault... I guess... But it is a reality....and it's sad...
 

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Before I decided what bass I was buying next I tried everything on the shelf in every shop I could find. Typically I was a Fender man and still haven't had problems with a Fender bass. However I wanted a 5 string and played the SR 5. I then played older StingRays and thought I know where I am buying my next bass from. Meaning EB of course. They have always been fine basses. I defy anyone to show up and find a fault with my SR 5.

EB has QC like no other IMHO. 10 years ago they weren't any better than next year's model will be and probably not really as good. IMHO once again.

Actually the designing and care taken to make the Bongo as unique and lovable as it seems to be to those who play it says the exact opposite of any argument you have posted Vov.

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