Weird question i know, about dual humbucker guitars.

[Tone?]

Ok i know i am weird and my ears are all paranoid and stuff. but on my Ibby RS1000 that has two humbuckers on it and on my EBMM Axis i get a 'hollow' kinda resonance from them.
Is that from the open space on the neck humbucker?

Im just so used to playing strat style guitars all my life.

 

[Larry]

I have no idea what you are talking about

 

[Tone?]

LOL

yeah im weird.

The resonance you get with, lets say an axis guitar or something with two buckers in it. The Acoustic thingy its got goin. It must be from the extra wide space from the neck bucker.

 

[the24thfret]

I also have no idea what you're talking about!

 

[TonyEVH5150]

I can't say I've noticed a "hollow" resonance from any of my Axes (plural). The Floyded models tend to have a brighter tone, but I can't say I've heard what you're talking about.

The bridge pickup is at a wider spacing, but that has to do with the pole pieces lining up with the strings. The string spread on a Floyd is wider than a vintage trem style, like a strat or even a Les Paul. I think it's only a difference of a couple of milimeters. The neck bucker is standard spacing.

The acoustic thing doesn't work because it's an electric guitar.

 

[Tone?]

yeah man all dual humbucking guitars have this of what i have heard cause of the space underneath the humbuckers and the larger cavitiy in the neck position.

 

[whitestrat]

Ok i know i am weird and my ears are all paranoid and stuff. but on my Ibby RS1000 that has two humbuckers on it and on my EBMM Axis i get a 'hollow' kinda resonance from them.
Is that from the open space on the neck humbucker?

Im just so used to playing strat style guitars all my life.

I know what you're talking about. That hollow-like tone is something I love in most of my guitars. But for some reason, I don't know what it is that produces that. I used to think that the swimming pool pup cavity in a strat with the pickguard and the trem would produce that (and all my strast definately have it, but you can get it from a Les Paul too. So honestly, I don't know why some guitars have it, and some don't.

 

[Tone?]

Must be the cavities that each guitar has. i just noticed that it sounds distinct when there are two buckers in a guitar. No biggie.
Yeah Les Pauls have it as well.

I was just wondering if i stuff some foam in there to get rid of it if it would affect overall tone, which it shouldnt.

 

[Larry]

If it ain't broke don't fix it

 

[gerry d]

Tone...... what amp are you using?

 

[Tone?]

im using a VHT 50ST

how come??

 

[GuitarHack]

If you mean a woody, articulate, open-vowel sound to the tone, I know what you mean. The Axis has it in spades, and I love it.

I think it's a function of the design of the guitar and pickups more than the two-humbucker format.

(Huh...huh....I said "woody".)

 

[whitestrat]

If you mean a woody, articulate, open-vowel sound to the tone, I know what you mean. The Axis has it in spades, and I love it.

I think it's a function of the design of the guitar and pickups more than the two-humbucker format.

(Huh...huh....I said "woody".)

So why does an Axis have it when a JP doesn't? What's to special about the Axis design that feeds this "woody" tone? Is it the Maple Top? Does that mean a 20th Silo should have it too???

 

[beej]

on my EBMM Axis i get a 'hollow' kinda resonance from them.
Is that from the open space on the neck humbucker?

Have to say I'm confused too. Do you mean just on the neck bucker? Or you're describing the sound of the in-between and bridge positions as well?

The Axis pickups are mounted on the body. There's nothing about an "open space" that will affect the tone. Likely you're just describing the sound of a midrangey humbucker in the neck position?

 

[gerry d]

it's my opinion that 80% of guitarists sound is in the amp that you use... I have seen players use not very good guitars into a great amp and they will sound great... by the same token I've seen players who have spent a lot of money on their guitar and neglect their amp...and as great as the guitar is.. they don't get a great sound... the reason I ask what amp you are using is because it will give me a better idea of the tone you are getting and indeed the tone you are trying to achieve.... it's a never ending quest and one that a lot of inexperienced players don't understand...

 

[Tim O'Sullivan]

it's my opinion that 80% of guitarists sound is in the amp that you use... I have seen players use not very good guitars into a great amp and they will sound great... by the same token I've seen players who have spent a lot of money on their guitar and neglect their amp...and as great as the guitar is.. they don't get a great sound... the reason I ask what amp you are using is because it will give me a better idea of the tone you are getting and indeed the tone you are trying to achieve.... it's a never ending quest and one that a lot of inexperienced players don't understand...

I would tend to agree. I played a £20 strat copy not that long ago and got a great sound through my amp. Where as my Axis through a £20 amp would sound bad..

 

[Tone?]

yeah thats why i spent a bunch of money on my VHT. It sounds great.

 

[GuitarHack]

So why does an Axis have it when a JP doesn't? What's to special about the Axis design that feeds this "woody" tone? Is it the Maple Top? Does that mean a 20th Silo should have it too???

I don't have a JP, but given that the main differences with the Axis are the maple cap, pickups, and number of frets, it's probably that . I do have a 20th, it isn't as "woody" as an Axis. Also, I have an MM90 ASS (ash+maple), I wouldn't call it woody, either.

Of course, the folks who make the guitars could settle this for us...

 

[GuitarHack]

... I have seen players use not very good guitars into a great amp and they will sound great... by the same token I've seen players who have spent a lot of money on their guitar and neglect their amp...and as great as the guitar is.. they don't get a great sound...

Gerry, I think you're dead on about the good guitar/bad amp or vice versa. There was a good-natured debate about this a few weeks ago. Not a whole bunch of folks agreed with the amp-is-more-important view, and there were comments like "You play your guitar, not your amp". My tonal quest took a leap when I realized you play BOTH. The amp is an instrument as well. I don't claim to be a tone god, nor am I completely happy with my sound every day, but I got a lot farther by trying different amps than I did different guitars.

Hijack over...sorry.

 

[Jammin86]

I don't know if we are talking about the same thing here, but I recently picked up an axis. It's hard to describe, but I've noticed that in the bridge position the guitar is very "woody" or has a hollow sound to it. The only way I can describe it is the inbetween positions on a strat or what I am used to the middle position sounding like in my other dual humbucker guitars. I notice a huge difference from Neck PU to middle position or neck PU to bridge, but from middle position to bridge, I don't notice a huge difference. Is this the nature of the axis or should I notice a big tonal difference from middle position to bridge PU? What I notice now is the bridge position seems to have a little more treble, but not much more output, and the same kinda woody twang. (I realize that this is all subjective) Any opinions welcome, thanks!