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Oh, to answer the question "Why do I come over here?"

Yes, Mark was correct in stating that my job had something to do with my being here. I certainly couldn't afford to flip for tickets to Tokyo every two weeks just cause I like coming here. The company I fly for has an airplane that is based here. So, they fly me over here, I fly their airplane around Japan and Korea for 2 weeks, then they fly me home. Sorry for the confusion.

Chris in Tokyo
 

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I know everybody rags on Hartke, but I've been playing on it for about 12 years and I really like it. A lot of people played on it at the TB GTG last month when there were a lot of other rigs available.
 

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I can't imagine those aluminium cones suiting anything apart from punk or slapping. The few times I've heard Hartke rigs live it sounded like someone was banging a trash can with a baseball bat.
 

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Aussie Mark said:
I can't imagine those aluminium cones suiting anything apart from punk or slapping. The few times I've heard Hartke rigs live it sounded like someone was banging a trash can with a baseball bat.

Well, I've found you can make just about anything sound good if you know what you're doing. :D
 

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OK, that was a little bit of a knee jerk reaction.

I started playing Hartke when everywhere you looked, you saw them on stage in every kind of music. I figured that Hartke couldn't possibly have so much money for endorsements that every other bass player I saw could be sponsored by them. I had been playin Peavey until that point and I really liked the sound and appearance of Hartke. I've played them in rock, jazz, country and pop situations and I've never heard any complaints. They don't sound metallic unless you want them to. With a stingray they have a very smooth sound. And when you do want them to have that metallic "pop", they do it better than anything else I've ever heard.

I've played some other brands out there that a lot of players seem to like that I personally don't think sound as clean as mine. Maybe that's what I'm looking for. They sound clean. Anyway, that's why I like and play this rig and until I hear something that sounds significantly better, that's why I will continue to play Hartke.
 

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i have had 3 hartke cabs.

i had the 2115 combo, (2000 head, 1 15" speaker)

the speaker blew out within the first year.
then ig ot a 410 transporter. was never really pleased with the sound, but it was given to me.
then i traded a soundgear ibanez for a 5.5xl(so now i had a full stack of hartke). i got a higher wattage head(the 3500) and with the sansamp the rig sounded mean, but only at low volumes.

i realized it was hartke, because when i bought my first ampeg rig(3pro / 810e)i was blown away by the osund and performance.

i just upgraded to the 610hlf(well, downgraded but yeah) and i'm most likely going up to the svt 4 pro next. i have the bbe 362, which makes everything sound clear, korg dtr1000 rack tuner, furhman power regulator, and a dbx 662 compressor, limiter, noise gate thingy. the whole **** sounds good, i just need it to be louder.

it all fits nciely into a road ready 8 space road case, which will be upgraded to a 8 or 10 space shock mount(hopefully with casters for my lazy ass).
 

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As I said, I've played Hartke for 12 years. I had an amp blow from a power surge one time. That's why you see the power conditioner in the rack now. That's the one and only problem I have had. I don't play balls to the wall loud. Never needed to.
 

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Mobay45 said:
As I said, I've played Hartke for 12 years. I had an amp blow from a power surge one time. That's why you see the power conditioner in the rack now. That's the one and only problem I have had. I don't play balls to the wall loud. Never needed to.
see, a lot of the shows we play are hall/vfw shows where the pa is for vocals only. so "I" need something with a lot of headroom and something i can play loud that wont sound like someone else said, "a baseball bat to a garbage can lid.".
 

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xshawnxearthx said:
see, a lot of the shows we play are hall/vfw shows where the pa is for vocals only. so "I" need something with a lot of headroom and something i can play loud that wont sound like someone else said, "a baseball bat to a garbage can lid.".

This is my last defense of Harke. I'm glad everyone has an opinion. Things would be really boring if there were one choice and everyone was happy with that. Personally, I don't find that I ever have the sound of "a baseball bat to a garbage can lid", but I've played these cabs for a long time and I know how to get what I believe is a good sound from them. Not to throw stones, but I played an Ampeg rig and a GK/Eden rig that I didn't like at all. Admittedly, they belonged to other bass players and I didn't have the opportunity to tweak them, but I wasn't impressed. But thank God I had the chance to make that choice.

I don't spend time here to bash other peoples choices and I get real tired of the anti-Hartke comments I have to put up with here and other places. As I said in the earlier post, many of the bassists that were at the TB GTG here in DFW didn't have any problem at all plugging in and playing Hartke. There was Mesa, Ampeg, Shroeder, Avatar and several other rigs there, but they seemed to find their way over to the Hartke rig to try out the high end basses that were there. Even Jack's Bongo sounded good through it! If they were the crap that some believe they are, they wouldn't be the successful company they are today.
 

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Mobay45 said:
This is my last defense of Harke. I'm glad everyone has an opinion. Things would be really boring if there were one choice and everyone was happy with that. Personally, I don't find that I ever have the sound of "a baseball bat to a garbage can lid", but I've played these cabs for a long time and I know how to get what I believe is a good sound from them. Not to throw stones, but I played an Ampeg rig and a GK/Eden rig that I didn't like at all. Admittedly, they belonged to other bass players and I didn't have the opportunity to tweak them, but I wasn't impressed. But thank God I had the chance to make that choice.

I don't spend time here to bash other peoples choices and I get real tired of the anti-Hartke comments I have to put up with here and other places. As I said in the earlier post, many of the bassists that were at the TB GTG here in DFW didn't have any problem at all plugging in and playing Hartke. There was Mesa, Ampeg, Shroeder, Avatar and several other rigs there, but they seemed to find their way over to the Hartke rig to try out the high end basses that were there. Even Jack's Bongo sounded good through it! If they were the crap that some believe they are, they wouldn't be the successful company they are today.
i'm def not knocking someone for useing them. i guess for me its just not the sound i like/want/need. i've owned, like i said, 3 cabs, two heads. i was happy with them, until i got my ampeg rib, then i sold all my hartke stuff(one thing i really didnt like, was the re sale value on hartke stuff drops big time, i couldnt give away my 2000 head, and my 4.5xl sat in the want ads for months). on that note, it was ****ty, i wish i had not sold the cab, but i needed money to record.

to me, for a low volume cab, the 4.5xl with my ampeg head sounded great. but when i couldnt bring my ampeg cab to a gig in nyc cause i had a hatchback, i brought the 4.5xl, and when i twas mic'd and i didnt play loud, it sounded good, but it was just when i cranked it, did it lose the nice tone i grew to love.

but yeah, its all opinion. i've tried lots of different heads and cabinet combinations over the years, and something keeps bringing me back to my ampeg rig.

my hartke stuff, eh
the eden rig i tried, to warm, not enough highs for me.
gk, was just bad
mesa rig, sounded good, but needed a 400+ instead of a ss one.
fender bass stuff, wouldnt waste my money on it.

last year, when we played the warped tour, we played the ernie ball stage(oh yeah) and had a backline already set. it was a hartke 4.5xl and a 15. for the life of me, i couldnt get a good sound. i tweaked everything on my head, it just wasnt giving me the sound i had wanted.

but, on a lighter note. i had to use a hartke 15 and 410 at a show for the core tour that stopped in nyc, and it didnt sound bad at all.
 

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I will post pics of my rig when I get it home. I have often been told the Laney isn't any good. Know what it works and has yet to let me down.

To me it is interesting to hear each and everyones opinion on gear. I won' t profess to know enough about amps and cabs to have a good debate!!

tk
 

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tkarter said:
I will post pics of my rig when I get it home. I have often been told the Laney isn't any good. Know what it works and has yet to let me down.

To me it is interesting to hear each and everyones opinion on gear. I won' t profess to know enough about amps and cabs to have a good debate!!

tk

Just fall to your knees and thank God that you didn't end up with a Harke rig! :eek: :D
 

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Can't be too bad if Bov plugged a Bongo into it. I wouldn't sweat what the world thought about that Hartke rig Mobay.

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