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I think somebody said that the JP is the best selling guitar.
 

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Big Poppa said:
THen along came JP and there was no way I wouldn't work with him. The collaborations we have done have been so incredibly mutually beneficial for all.

Thank goodness!

I don't know how I survived without the JP tremolo bridge and body contours!
 

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Big Poppa said:
Hello
I said after EVH that I would never do another signature model guitar. NEVER! THen along came JP and there was no way I wouldn't work with him. The collaborations we have done have been so incredibly mutually beneficial for all.

Benji Madden gave us tremendous visiblity in a genre we had zero presence. THe Benji Madden model was a thanks but also our real goal was to sell Benji OLP's and Benji wanted to make sure that if someone wanted his exact guitar they would be available.

The problem on the retail level is the there are only so many hooks on the wall and in general sig guitars do not sell. We are a rare exception. Great players ego usually wont allow them to play a guitar with somebody else's name on it. (Les Paul excluded) The Sig guitar is usually a way for a company to lock the endorsee in by stroking his/her ego.

Mkaaayy...

As for the post EVH mess I can see why you may have felt like that at the time, but you know what they say.... never say never. ;) The JP is a few steps away from being my fave MM (that goes to the Silo Special) but it's an awesome instrument that I definitely favor over his Ibanezes.

At first I didn't understand why BM had a model right up next to the likes of the other "siggers" but the more i looked at it the more it looked like a smart marketing move, more than anything else. Kudos for the good bidness move and the fact of the matter is it ain't a bad axe by ANY means.

As for signature guitars not selling, yeah i agree that there are a LOT of people who won't buy a sig guitar simply because of the name on the headstock, even though in a blind taste test they just might prefer the instrument... or not who knows. But if players get hung up on the name and not the instrument... well then i guess it comes down to a matter of what really MATTERS to whos playing it. Personally I couldn't care whose name was on the instrument as long as it was what i wanted.

So Sig guitars generally do not sell well... mkay. So lets say the possibility, or rather FEASIBILITY of a sig model ain't there. What kind of endorsement committment or agreement would it take to get custom tweaked axes like Vinnie Moore's Silos?
 

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B2D said:
So Sig guitars generally do not sell well... mkay. So lets say the possibility, or rather FEASIBILITY of a sig model ain't there. What kind of endorsement committment or agreement would it take to get custom tweaked axes like Vinnie Moore's Silos?

You know what it will take?

The ability to show this thing off to an enormous amount of people, and the ability to convince those people with YOUR playing that it is the guitar that they want to get, for those reasons.
 

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jaxadam said:
You know what it will take?

The ability to show this thing off to an enormous amount of people, and the ability to convince those people with YOUR playing that it is the guitar that they want to get, for those reasons.

Well I can't really say much about my current musical projects without sounding really really cocky, (hehehe!) but I did a gig the other night in Long Beach and it was about a 1 and a half hour set... used my EB for the entire set. After the set a guy came up to me and offered to buy it off me for WAY more than I paid for it because he loved the color and the sound of it. No lie. Honest.

Sooooo am I on the right track?
 

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B2D said:
Well I can't really say much about my current musical projects without sounding really really cocky, (hehehe!) but I did a gig the other night in Long Beach and it was about a 1 and a half hour set... used my EB for the entire set. After the set a guy came up to me and offered to buy it off me for WAY more than I paid for it because he loved the color and the sound of it. No lie. Honest.

Sooooo am I on the right track?


That's 1, you're gonna need a couple thousand more...
 

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yer beating a dead horse here at the forum.....this is not the place.

u need to contact ebmm artist relations.they handle all this kind of business.....just like customer service handles all customer service issues.....&... they decide who gets when.......:)
good luck to ya.....
p.s. mabey u wanna look into getting yer axe tweeked or modded by a pro in the meantime........

B2D said:
Mkaaayy...

As for the post EVH mess I can see why you may have felt like that at the time, but you know what they say.... never say never. ;) The JP is a few steps away from being my fave MM (that goes to the Silo Special) but it's an awesome instrument that I definitely favor over his Ibanezes.

At first I didn't understand why BM had a model right up next to the likes of the other "siggers" but the more i looked at it the more it looked like a smart marketing move, more than anything else. Kudos for the good bidness move and the fact of the matter is it ain't a bad axe by ANY means.

As for signature guitars not selling, yeah i agree that there are a LOT of people who won't buy a sig guitar simply because of the name on the headstock, even though in a blind taste test they just might prefer the instrument... or not who knows. But if players get hung up on the name and not the instrument... well then i guess it comes down to a matter of what really MATTERS to whos playing it. Personally I couldn't care whose name was on the instrument as long as it was what i wanted.

So Sig guitars generally do not sell well... mkay. So lets say the possibility, or rather FEASIBILITY of a sig model ain't there. What kind of endorsement committment or agreement would it take to get custom tweaked axes like Vinnie Moore's Silos?
 
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Years ago I read an interview where Keith Richards raved about the Silhouette.He was using a few of them on the Steel Wheels tour.I think Ron Wood was using them too.He said it was the first guitar since the Strat and Tele that offered anything new.I wondered why EBMM/Keith didnt do a guitar as he was clearly very,very taken with the silo
same goes for Flea and the Stingray bass.that would have been huge imo.Then next thing I see he's got his own sig Modulus
I dont know if these 2 were ever approached or whether they would have wanted one but both huge names...
 
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I never wanted my own sig......

But I always thought it would be a great idea to have an advertising campaign based around normal everyday Joes. You know, tell what they do by day, and then show them playing by night.


But I guess that's why I fix teeth and don't sell advertising!:rolleyes:
 

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Poppa had a good story about "keef" during the open house. The gist is that they managed to get a guitar to him through his guitar tech at the time, and he loved it. If I recall, eventually he switched guitar techs and went back to his F***ers.

Always wondered about Flea.
 

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beej said:
Poppa had a good story about "keef" during the open house. The gist is that they managed to get a guitar to him through his guitar tech at the time, and he loved it. If I recall, eventually he switched guitar techs and went back to his F***ers.

Always wondered about Flea.

I heard that Flea wanted the Stingray to be called the 'Flea Bass' or something similar, and of course EBMM don't need Flea to sell this bass! At which point Flea went to Modulus for his ego to be stroked etc.

Correct me if I am wrong here!
 

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tommyindelaware said:
yer beating a dead horse here at the forum.....this is not the place.

u need to contact ebmm artist relations.they handle all this kind of business.....just like customer service handles all customer service issues.....&... they decide who gets when.......:)
good luck to ya.....
p.s. mabey u wanna look into getting yer axe tweeked or modded by a pro in the meantime........

YOINK!! Why didn't I think of that in the first place? Good call!

I'll take the Gunsmoke SS to a pro shop for things like refrets and electronics/hardware fixes but this guitar is too nice as is to start hacking up into my ultimate EB. Even if I DID do everything i wanted to the guitar it would still not be my "sig" model if i could have it my way.

If you wanna know what I want I'll tell you (it's in the imaginary EB custom shop thread).
 

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Dude, if you want your own signature model this badly, either make one yourself or fine someone to do it for you.

It really doesn't look like an MM signature is in your future.

Glenn |B)
 

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GWDavis28 said:
Dude, if you want your own signature model this badly, either make one yourself or fine someone to do it for you.

Well yeah I'd like one when the time is right and I feel I've gained the appropriate status, but lets face it... its a long way off and it aint keeping me awake at night.

But you never know. It could happen.

It really doesn't look like an MM signature is in your future.

Glenn |B)

And you would know this for certain because..... yeah i thought so, Miss Cleo. :D Never say never. Stranger things have happened.
 

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B2D said:
And you would know this for certain because..... yeah i thought so, Miss Cleo. :D Never say never. Stranger things have happened.

So, dude post a tune and let's see whta you got? :cool:

Glenn |B)
 

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if you want your own sig. model write your name on the headstock!

other less painful otpions........

1. - buy guitars and mix and match to suit -- many players had unbranded POS guitars that worked for them prior to hitting the big time

2.- Start your own company, and have you on the list.

3. -Purchase another company is EBMm for sale ?

4 - Move to china, start a small Crappy warehouse and have people make you stuff.
 
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