robelinda2
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phew, get to keep my legs for another day! I guess i shouldnt have even mentioned the pentatonic thing, i use it all the time and i'm sure most rock/blues players out there do too, to great effect.
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bovinehost
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Big Poppa said:
Is this the much-talked-about guitar forum?
I only want to say that I lived in Texas long ago in the frightening 70s and the Vaughn brothers were playing the same clubs we were, as staggering as that may seem now. Jimmy was The Big Deal at the time, at least amongst we musician types.
Stevie was just "Jimmy's little brother". How ironic is that? I'm glad I had a chance to see him back then. He was usually on fire, and it wasn't long before most of us realized that something really cool was going on with that guy (and his band).
Well, come on, the Digitech Whammy was BIG.
Jackie
Lucidology
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Perhaps his playing under the influence didn't impress you. But if he'd lived and stayed sober, I doubt if you'd have the same questions about his talent now.
And FWIW, as we speak there are 1,000+ awesome guitar players (not me) out there for every one player who you've actually heard of. That's just the way it is -hbucker
I never said SRV didn't impress me... And I truly agree, as pointed out by BP, making magical music with just a five note scale is an amazing accomplishment... and SRV was extremely musical and passionate...
My point is that there were many Blues players before and during SRV's period of fame, playing those exact same five notes, who possed the same qualities (and some who had drug habits)... but just didn't get noticed as much...
They brought just as much joy and groove to the music, if not even more in many cases...To name just a few; Mike Bloomfield, Robben Ford, Peter Green, Buzzy Feiten, Mick Taylor, Amos Garret, Albert Collins, Some of the Kings, etc. etc. etc.
And your point about "1000 awesome" unknown guitar players for every one who gets noticed is so, so, so, so, true......
And FWIW, as we speak there are 1,000+ awesome guitar players (not me) out there for every one player who you've actually heard of. That's just the way it is -hbucker
I never said SRV didn't impress me... And I truly agree, as pointed out by BP, making magical music with just a five note scale is an amazing accomplishment... and SRV was extremely musical and passionate...
My point is that there were many Blues players before and during SRV's period of fame, playing those exact same five notes, who possed the same qualities (and some who had drug habits)... but just didn't get noticed as much...
They brought just as much joy and groove to the music, if not even more in many cases...To name just a few; Mike Bloomfield, Robben Ford, Peter Green, Buzzy Feiten, Mick Taylor, Amos Garret, Albert Collins, Some of the Kings, etc. etc. etc.
And your point about "1000 awesome" unknown guitar players for every one who gets noticed is so, so, so, so, true......
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robelinda2
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Lucidology said:
yep, kinda what i was trying to say in my dumb aussie way
kbaim
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Big Poppa said:
Just wondering if they changed the article's focus from PEOPLE to something else to include devices, etc.?
seems messed up.
bovinehost
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Being a Texas guy, I got my fill of doing the blues jams with the SRV wannabees, but I also remember Stevie Ray as a person and a musician, not simply as an icon or a dead famous guy.
There are plenty of good blues players out there, but very few who could sell it the way SRV did. "Five notes" does him a bit of a disservice, don't you think?
Jack
robelinda2
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songs like Stang's Swang and Riviera Paradise certainly confirm him as more then just basic pentatonic, as does a lot of his work, he had a touch of jazz and a flair that was fantastic. he was a magnificent player, most passionate blues player i've ever heard, followed by Robert Cray.
TwAn
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SRV = God! (In my book)
Lucidology
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I was just referring to the "pentatonic scale" which means 5 notes as the basis of the blues scale as referred to by Big Poppa... many of the players I mentioned used more then just the blues scale as did SRV himself...
I knew if I brought up SRV people are very passionate about him and might take it personally...
I remember reading two different articles last year... one written by Steve Vai and the other Dweezil Zappa.. both, in so many words, saying that if they heard another SRV clone, they were just gonna die....
I knew if I brought up SRV people are very passionate about him and might take it personally...
I remember reading two different articles last year... one written by Steve Vai and the other Dweezil Zappa.. both, in so many words, saying that if they heard another SRV clone, they were just gonna die....
Big Poppa
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Nobodies mad or hurt this is a great thread. Dweezil and Vai said CLONES!! Vai clones bug the snot out of me, Albert clones...etc.
If it wasnt for the pentatonic scale I would be asking you if you wanted fries with your order. Or maybe, "Light bulbs, Uhhh I think there are on Isle 4"
If it wasnt for the pentatonic scale I would be asking you if you wanted fries with your order. Or maybe, "Light bulbs, Uhhh I think there are on Isle 4"
rrhea
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Big Poppa said:
Japanese shamisen music is based on the 5 note Pentatonic scale, as well.
Where would the Geishas be without their shamisen ?
RR
bovinehost
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Asking if you want fries with that.
Norrin Radd
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bovinehost said:
hehehehehhe.....
Funniest thing I've seen all day!
Spudmurphy
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mmmm (a la Hommer Simpson) digitech whammy pedal instead of BP ?
Also what are all these scales people talk about - sounds fishy to me!!
All I see when I play guitar, are boxes and patterns and I play what I feel to be right- shoot I wish I had learned the guitar better than I have done.
With regard to SRV whoa there boy, you have to remember what liitle else was out there when he was emerging on the scene in the early 80's, when the dearth of guitar music was trumpeted on the newstands and the charts were wired to synthesised pop. Quote from Frank Joseph (Guitarist mag) " in an age when musical tastes are shaped by technological innovations, and sensibilities are assaulted by arsenals of Linn drums and Fairlights, it's downright refreshing to hear a guitarist who plays straight from the gut."
In Guitarist magazine in 2001 SRV came top in the readers vote of 50 top guitar players
We used to play a lot of SRV stuff before he became popular(in the days of vinyl!!) and the audiences were knocked out by it. Now there are more SRV clones than you can shake a stick at. Says a lot about his style that so many people want to copy it. He left a legacy that we are left to wonder how much more he might have accomplished.
Pentatonic shmentatonic ! The guy played with feel so did Paul Kossoff. With him he left plenty of gaps for Paul Rodgers and Andy Fraser to step in. Paul Rogers still says that for him Koss was the best guitarist that he ever played with and he didn't play one "shreddy" bit of guitar playing. I'd better stop and cool off - nurse - more medication please for Mr Murphy !!
Also what are all these scales people talk about - sounds fishy to me!!
All I see when I play guitar, are boxes and patterns and I play what I feel to be right- shoot I wish I had learned the guitar better than I have done.
With regard to SRV whoa there boy, you have to remember what liitle else was out there when he was emerging on the scene in the early 80's, when the dearth of guitar music was trumpeted on the newstands and the charts were wired to synthesised pop. Quote from Frank Joseph (Guitarist mag) " in an age when musical tastes are shaped by technological innovations, and sensibilities are assaulted by arsenals of Linn drums and Fairlights, it's downright refreshing to hear a guitarist who plays straight from the gut."
In Guitarist magazine in 2001 SRV came top in the readers vote of 50 top guitar players
We used to play a lot of SRV stuff before he became popular(in the days of vinyl!!) and the audiences were knocked out by it. Now there are more SRV clones than you can shake a stick at. Says a lot about his style that so many people want to copy it. He left a legacy that we are left to wonder how much more he might have accomplished.
Pentatonic shmentatonic ! The guy played with feel so did Paul Kossoff. With him he left plenty of gaps for Paul Rodgers and Andy Fraser to step in. Paul Rogers still says that for him Koss was the best guitarist that he ever played with and he didn't play one "shreddy" bit of guitar playing. I'd better stop and cool off - nurse - more medication please for Mr Murphy !!
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hbucker
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SRV's cover of "Little Wing" is a religious experience for me. It is life. All of the joy, pain, apprehension, glory and defeat one finds in life is contained in that one little guitar work.
To me anyone who can make a guitar emote like that is worthy of any praise they get. Even if they only used ONE note.
To me anyone who can make a guitar emote like that is worthy of any praise they get. Even if they only used ONE note.
robelinda2
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little wing is certainly awesome. unbelieveable playing. Tin Pan Alley is great too.
i dont think anyone here is dissing the great man, you would be a fool to.
i dont think anyone here is dissing the great man, you would be a fool to.
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hbucker said:
you know whats funny about that. 2 months or a month later(i cant remeber which) they did a 100 most influencily and guess who was number one. same guy they put at number for needing to retire. Give me a break which one is it.
Tim O'Sullivan
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SRV was indeed awesome. His touch and feel and tone were world class. I would rather hear SRV play one note than 10,000 notes from a tasteless shredder.
